Hi, OK. But how do you populate the table on the client side?
I see that the client gets the CHL from the server sendResponse, but how do you know the CHL that each command used? 2011/11/16 Nathan Tran <nathant...@gmail.com> > Nicolas, > > sendResponse() sends the chl with the response for me. Note that the chl > won't be sent back on the CONNECT command. You can get the CHL manually > using infos.chl but I get 0 instead of 1 when I get a response from the > CONNECT command. Subsequent commands will have the correct CHL returned > upon getting a response from sendResponse function. > > Nathan. > > > > On Tue Nov 15 17:14:58 2011, Nicolas wrote: > >> OK. But how do you get the challenge that the command was associated >> to? request.send does not return this information, does it? That's the >> missing piece in the puzzle for me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 15 nov, 23:55, Nathan Tran<nathant...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Nicolas, >>> >>> On my Lua client I used a table of callbacks that's indexed by >>> challenge ID. I then compare the challenge ID in the response with >>> this table to get the proper callback. >>> >>> You're right it's CLOSE not QUIT my mistake. >>> >>> Nathan. >>> >>> On Tue Nov 15 16:28:17 2011, Nicolas Guibert wrote: >>> >>> All this is done by APE-jsf by default (I believe QUIT is actually >>>> CLOSE though). >>>> >>> >>> And indeed, I see all this in Firebug. >>>> >>> >>> The problem is to link what is received with what was sent. A CLOSE is >>>> received after each successful request. I have just tested the >>>> sendResponse, it actually replaces the CLOSE, so no overhead in most >>>> cases in not all. Good point. >>>> >>> >>> After thinking more about it (while writing this message), it seems >>>> that this can work with sendResponse. A simple catch of the response >>>> on the client side will do the trick. However, maybe the CHL is not >>>> the correct way to do it. How do I know what CHL was associated with >>>> my command in the first place? >>>> >>> >>> Thanks again. >>>> >>> >>> 2011/11/15 Nathan Tran<nathant...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:nathant...@gmail.com>> >>>> >>> >>> I assume that you're using long polling. In that case the http >>>> connection is kept open with the server. If there is no traffic >>>> in 35 seconds (you can set this), then the server will >>>> automatically disconnect the user (LEFT raw). So it's the >>>> client's responsibility to keep a fresh http connection with the >>>> server. The JS client opens a new http connection with the server >>>> say after every 30s of inactivity. The server receives this >>>> connection and immediately disconnects the previous one and then >>>> sending a QUIT raw for that previous connection. That's the >>>> response you're seeing in Firebug. >>>> >>> >>> Nathan. >>>> >>> >>> On Tue Nov 15 15:43:01 2011, Nicolas Guibert wrote: >>>> >>> >>> Many thanks. >>>> >>> >>> It seems that this sendResponse can probably help do what I >>>> want, but isn't there already a response sent by the server on >>>> every command. I think there is. >>>> >>> >>> 2011/11/15 Nicolas >>> Guibert<ioa.guib...@**googlemail.com<ioa.guib...@googlemail.com> >>>> <mailto:ioa.guib...@**googlemail.com<ioa.guib...@googlemail.com> >>>> > >>>> <mailto:ioa.guibert@__googlema**il.com <http://googlemail.com> >>>> <mailto:ioa.guib...@**googlemail.com<ioa.guib...@googlemail.com> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> Sounds great. I'll have a look at this. >>>> >>> >>> 2011/11/15 Nathan Tran<nathant...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:nathant...@gmail.com> >>>> <mailto:nathant...@gmail.com<**mailto:nathant...@gmail.com>>> >>>> >>> >>> Nicolas, >>>> >>> >>> I am not sure if you are aware of the sendResponse() >>>> function >>>> on the server. When you call the sendResponse() >>>> function the >>>> server automatically injects the challenge ID into the >>>> response RAW. On the client side you can acknowledge >>>> this >>>> response as a direct response to a particular command >>>> you sent >>>> earlier. I used this on the client side (Lua not JS) >>>> to make >>>> callbacks asynchronously. >>>> >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>>> Nathan. >>>> >>> >>> On Tue Nov 15 15:17:04 2011, Nicolas wrote: >>>> >>> >>> Hi, >>>> >>> >>> Great to see someone interested by the subject :) >>>> >>> >>> I am not delving into the APE js, because I am >>>> pretty sure >>>> it would >>>> take me too much time to figure it out and also >>>> because if >>>> they update >>>> it, I'll have to update my code too. >>>> >>> >>> I have just added a check_raw_id() function at the >>>> beginning of every >>>> onraw that I am interested in (the messages that I >>>> need to >>>> check). In >>>> this check_raw_id() function, I send the >>>> acknowledgement >>>> and also >>>> check that the raw_id is the one that I am expecting >>>> (because I want >>>> to receive them in order), not one that is too early >>>> or >>>> one that was >>>> sent (and actually received) twice. >>>> >>> >>> On the server side, I send the raws via a >>>> send_custom_raw() function >>>> that keeps track of the content of the raw and of >>>> its id >>>> (raw_id). >>>> When an ACK_REC is received from the client, it >>>> deletes >>>> the message in >>>> the storing array. Every x seconds, I test if there >>>> are >>>> "old" messages >>>> that have not yet received their ACK_REC and if so, I >>>> resend them. >>>> >>> >>> I could do something similar for the client to server >>>> exchanges, but >>>> is that really necessary? I am pretty sure that we >>>> can >>>> avoid this >>>> overhead as the information of whether the command >>>> was >>>> received by the >>>> server is pretty much there. The problem is that I >>>> don't >>>> really know >>>> how to extract it. Any ideas welcome? >>>> >>> >>> On 15 nov, 18:35, >>>> >>> >>> >>> chrismdodson<christophermarkdo**____d...@googlemail.com<christophermarkdo____d...@googlemail.com> >>>> >>>> <mailto:christophermarkdo__d..**.@googlemail.com<christophermarkdo__d...@googlemail.com> >>>> > >>>> <mailto:christophermarkdod...@**__googlemail.com >>>> >>>> <mailto:christophermarkdod...@**googlemail.com<christophermarkdod...@googlemail.com> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> Nicolas: >>>> >>> >>> This is great, that you are creating an assured >>>> delivery, and >>>> maintenance of message order. Without this >>>> there are >>>> so many >>>> applications that will not be able to use push - >>>> particularly those >>>> that want to initially deliver state to a >>>> client - and >>>> then updates - >>>> to avoid having to send state with each 'push', >>>> with >>>> all the extra >>>> traffic this generates. >>>> >>> >>> Presume you are making changes to the Javascript >>>> client and the >>>> backend code to enable this ? >>>> >>> >>> Brgrds, Chris >>>> >>> >>> On Nov 10, 2:39 pm, >>>> >>>> Nicolas<ioa.guib...@__googlema**__il.com<http://googlema__il.com> >>>> <http://googlemail.com> >>>> <mailto:ioa.guib...@__googlema**il.com <http://googlemail.com> >>>> <mailto:ioa.guib...@**googlemail.com<ioa.guib...@googlemail.com>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> Hi, >>>> >>> >>> Is there a little bit of acknowledgement of >>>> receipt in APE? >>>> >>> >>> Client sending to server: >>>> I believe there is not much problem as the >>>> server >>>> returns something on >>>> every custom command sent by the client >>>> (and can >>>> even send an error >>>> code or whatever is needed) >>>> >>> >>> Server sending to client: >>>> That seems more complicated to me. Is there >>>> any >>>> way at all (without >>>> adding my own layer) to know that a >>>> command/message sent by the server >>>> has been received by the client. I have >>>> started to >>>> implement my custom >>>> acknowledgement of receipt but realize that >>>> there >>>> might already be >>>> some hidden indicator that would just let >>>> me know >>>> this, without much >>>> more trouble. >>>> >>> >>> In any case, any thoughts on this subject >>>> truly >>>> appreciated. >>>> >>> >>> I really need to check that a raw has been >>>> received. I am working on a >>>> board game server and I can't allow that a >>>> move >>>> gets lost in >>>> cyberspace, as it happens currently, with a >>>> relatively high frequency >>>> (maybe 1 out of 500 messages for some) for >>>> some >>>> unlucky players, >>>> resulting in one game out of 10 freezing >>>> for them. >>>> On my computer >>>> however, I have never seen a frozen game >>>> which >>>> confirms that the >>>> quality of the client Internet connection >>>> is the >>>> limiting factor here. >>>> >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>>> >>> >>> Nicolas. >>>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are >>>> subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "APE Project" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> ape-project@googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <mailto:ape-project@**googlegroups.com<ape-project@googlegroups.com> >>>> > >>>> <mailto:ape-project@__googlegr**oups.com<http://googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> <mailto:ape-project@**googlegroups.com<ape-project@googlegroups.com> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> >>>> ape-project+unsubscribe@__goog**__legroups.com<http://goog__legroups.com> >>>> <http://googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> <mailto:ape-project%__**2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com<ape-project%25__2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> <mailto:ape-project%**252Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.**com<ape-project%25252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> >__> >>>> >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> >>> >>> ... >>> >>> plus de détails » >>> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "APE Project" group. > To post to this group, send email to ape-project@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > ape-project+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<ape-project%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/**group/ape-project?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/ape-project?hl=en> > --- > APE Project (Ajax Push Engine) > Official website : http://www.ape-project.org/ > Git Hub : http://github.com/APE-Project/ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "APE Project" group. 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