There is just so much more documentation about node.js and socket.io
(and websockets in general), than there is for comet servers, which is
helpful for novices like me.

Its good to know that I'm not making a terrible mistake. Thanks!

On Apr 25, 1:37 am, Pablo Tejada <ptejad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You wont be giving up much if you switch, node.js and APE support long
> polling as well as webSockets. The major difference is that node.js is
> a SSJS platform while APE is a full fledge comet server.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Orthonormal <s.coven...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > After googling around for cases similar to mine, and asking Dreamhost
> > about wildcard DNS, I think my problem is that wildcard dns was not
> > enabled.
>
> > After this little adventure with APE, and reading up on other comet
> > implementations...I think I will be going back to node.js/socket.io
> > (was mucking around with them before I tried out comet).
>
> > Having tried both, I think there is more support and a larger
> > community for node/socket than for the various comet servers. Thanks
> > for your help and advice. I hope I am not making a mistake giving up
> > comet for websockets?
>
> > On Apr 24, 10:51 pm, Pablo Tejada <ptejad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> When i first started my search for a comet server i notice must were
> >> java based, memory hogs. CometD seem to be a popular favorite.
> >> Lighthttpd seems like a good comercial solution, not sure about their
> >> support though.
>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
>
> >> On Apr 24, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Orthonormal <s.coven...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I have a feeling I need to contact Dreamhost support to allow wildcard
> >>> DNS on my VPS.
>
> >>> Or maybe I should abandon APE and try a comet server that is easier to
> >>> work with for newbies? :p
>
> >>> Since this is a commercial project, I don't mind paying for a
> >>> commercial comet server with support. Any good ones to recommend?
>
> >>> On Apr 24, 10:05 pm, Orthonormal <s.coven...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Am I right to assume that for "0.bob.dreamhosters.com:443" to work,
> >>>> Dreamhost has to allow "wildcard DNS"?
>
> >>>> Based on their support article (http://wiki.dreamhost.com/
> >>>> Wildcard_DNS), I might have to contact them to allow wildcard DNS. Is
> >>>> this a likely solution?
>
> >>>> On Apr 24, 9:55 pm, Pablo Tejada <ptejad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Is a server misconfiguration for sure, you should keep testing with
> >>>>> static content.
>
> >>>>> Is weird they recommend to bind it to the 443 port, isn't that the 
> >>>>> HTTPS port?
>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>
> >>>>> On Apr 24, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Orthonormal <s.coven...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Nope. I get: "Oops! Google Chrome could not find
> >>>>>> 0.bob.dreamhosters.com:443" (using chrome)
>
> >>>>>> On Apr 24, 9:43 pm, Louis Charette <charette.lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> You said that if you go to "http://bob.dreamhosters.com:443/"; you get 
> >>>>>>> the "APE Server No command given" message. Do you have the same 
> >>>>>>> message when you type ":http://0.bob.dreamhosters.com:443"; in your 
> >>>>>>> browser?
>
> >>>>>>>   - Louis
>
> >>>>>>> Le 2012-04-24 à 16:40, Orthonormal a écrit :
>
> >>>>>>>> Still doesn't work! Same error message. My virtualhost looks like
> >>>>>>>> this:
>
> >>>>>>>> <VirtualHost *>
>
> >>>>>>>> Servername bob.dreamhosters.com
> >>>>>>>> ServerAlias ape.bob.dreamhosters.com
> >>>>>>>> ServerAlias *.bob.dreamhosters.com
>
> >>>>>>>> DocumentRoot "/home/alice/www"
>
> >>>>>>>> </VirtualHost>
>
> >>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 9:26 pm, Louis Charette <charette.lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> If you have access to SSH, you can also restart apache2 instead of 
> >>>>>>>>> rebooting the whole server for the virtualhost setting to update.
>
> >>>>>>>>>   - Louis
>
> >>>>>>>>> Le 2012-04-24 à 16:25, Orthonormal a écrit :
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ok I tried Pablo's virtualhost and it didn't work. Same error 
> >>>>>>>>>> message.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> AFK for 30-45 mins. Then trying Louis' method and change 
> >>>>>>>>>> ServerAlias
> >>>>>>>>>> to *.bob.dreamhosters.com. Wish me luck lol.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 8:57 pm, Louis Charette <charette.lo...@gmail.com> 
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> When I go to:http://bob.dreamhosters.com:443/, it says "APE 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Server No
> >>>>>>>>>>>> command given.". So I assume the server is running fine?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes it does.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The test did find the server, but didn't find the frequency thing 
> >>>>>>>>>>> because the wildcard is binded to "ape.bob.dremhosters.com" 
> >>>>>>>>>>> instead of "bob.dreamhosters.com". Since he specified the port in 
> >>>>>>>>>>> config.js he should be fined and it should work after an apache 
> >>>>>>>>>>> reboot.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>   - Louis
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 2012-04-24 à 15:53, Pablo Tejada a écrit :
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is your virtual host, the default port is 80 i guess 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and you binded the APE server in 443. Try this virtual host 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> configuration, no sure if it will do the trick though:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <VirtualHost *>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        Servername bob.dreamhosters.com
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        DocumentRoot "/home/alice/www"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> </VirtualHost>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <VirtualHost *:443>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        Servername ape.bob.dreamhosters.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>        ServerAlias *.ape.bob.dreamhosters.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>> </VirtualHost>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Louis Charette 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <charette.lo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Change
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ServerAlias *.ape.bob.dreamhosters.com
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to this
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ServerAlias *.bob.dreamhosters.com
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>  - Louis
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 2012-04-24 à 15:22, Orthonormal a écrit :
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did this. And the check ran. But I got:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Can't contact APE Server. Please check the folowing url is 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pointing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to your APE server :http://0.bob.dreamhosters.com:443";
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 8:00 pm, Louis Charette <charette.lo...@gmail.com> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The "APE_JSF" folder should be uploaded on the website you 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to use Ape on directly.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  - Louis
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 2012-04-24 à 14:57, Orthonormal a écrit :
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I signed up for VPS from Dreamhost, and is trying to set up 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APE by
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following the tutorial. Which step did I go wrong? Did I 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leave out any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) It says:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "If you are using APE in tandem with a web server which is 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bound on port 80 (such as Apache), you don't have to edit 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APE is configured to run on port 6969 by default.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can jump to Run your APE Server."
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I changed my ape.conf so that "port = 443" instead 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dreamhost recommends that we bind on port 443.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Went to the /bin/ folder and ran "aped". I get the APE 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Engine logo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it says bind on port 443. So no problem there.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Edited the httpd.conf file to include these:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <VirtualHost *>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Servername bob.dreamhosters.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       ServerAlias ape.bob.dreamhosters.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       ServerAlias *.ape.bob.dreamhosters.com
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       DocumentRoot "/home/alice/APE_JSF"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </VirtualHost>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not using the actual names but assuming my admin user name 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is "alice",
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and my dreamhost domain is bob.dreamhosters.com.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Edited Demos/config.js to be:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APE.Config.baseUrl = 'http://bob.dreamhosters.com/APE_JSF';
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APE.Config.domain = 'bob.dreamhosters.com';
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APE.Config.server = 'ape.bob.dreamhosters.com:443';
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5) Finally, I went 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tohttp://bob.dreamhosters.com/APE_JSF/Tools/Check/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but got a 404 error. Even after I rebooted my VPS.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What did I miss out or did wrong?
>
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