Hi Ole: Owen has explained the litigation clause in a much better English than I do.
I would rather EC not even consider to table such resolution. On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 at 22:12 Ole Jacobsen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Cutting this down considerably to improve readability: > > You said: > > Yes, RIR is owned by its members, and it’s member have rights to challenge > the RIR, including their legal rights. > > That does not preclude their ability participate in the governance > matters, including running for the election. > > ***OLE: Well, that is what is being proposed in the bylaw changes and the > obvious conflict of interest it would > create for a candidate to be simultaneously running for the EC and suing > APNIC is a good reason IMO. This is entirely > separate from member's rights to "challenge the RIR." > >> > Public none profit company works for the collective good of humans, of > course it’s leadership are held at much higher standard of accountability > towards society, especially it’s members. > > ***OLE: s/good of humans/good of its members or constituency/ and I would > agree which is *precisely* why the litigation > issue is even on the table. > > APNIC have been a one man company for 25 years, it’s a public fact, and it > never register as NGO with Australian goverment. > > ***OLE: It's also a red herring since APNIC has a well-established > governance structure. And this particular *legal* > directorship situation is being corrected with the new bylaws where it > will no longer be a "one man company". > > Court have declared all my lawsuits are justified, it is afrinic not > afforded due process to me, unless you can sustain your claim I have made > frivolous lawsuits, you have to bare the consequences of deformation. > > ***OLE: I am obviously talking about what is *alleged* in the letter you > yourself linked to. I am not a lawyer, but > it would seem to me that your lawsuit has resulted in an important > organization being effectively shut down. Perhaps > that's not "frivolous," but it seems to me to be at least heavy-handed at > a minimum. > > That being said, it does not mean elected EC will not use APNIC as device > to silence the opposition, history told us every elected dictatorship > including hitler did that. > > ***OLE: Godwin's Law applies, congratulations! I think it only took you 3 > rounds. > > Who said those IP intent to use anywhere? Can you sustain your claim with > actual document? > > RIR are local internet facilitator, not territorial exclusive governing > body. > > ***OLE: See above "alleged" as the letter from AFRINIC states that you > linked to. RIRs are "Regional." > > Most people understand by-law change required to give true power back to > the members. > > Again, *you* are not most people in the list. > > ***OLE: Right, and thankfully neither are *you* ! > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher > The Internet Protocol Journal > Office: +1 415-550-9433 > Cell: +1 415-370-4628 > Docomo: +81 90 3337-9311 > Web: protocoljournal.org > E-mail: [email protected] > E-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > -- -- Kind regards. Lu
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