Do you see long vertical cankers, dark brown streaking, cracking bark?

On 7/20/18, Doug Nelson <doug.nel...@nelsonmultimedia.com> wrote:
> hugh makes me think i dont have fire blight given his description. What I
> have happening is clusters of trees (about 4 or 5 per cluster in 3
> different clusters) across my 6000 tree orchard. When the tree becomes
> symptomatic all the leaves brown and the entire tree seems to dies withing
> 5 days- all the leaves become droopy then brown at once. Maybe this is
> something else happening? Attached are pictures.
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> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:45 AM Kari Peter <ka...@psu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Pruning out fire blight this time of year can be tricky depending how
>> much
>> fire blight you are pruning out.  Excessive pruning will encourage more
>> shoot growth = more shoot growth means susceptible shoots to fire blight
>> right now especially with conditions favorable for disease.  Trees should
>> be hardened off right now meaning new shoot growth should be finished.
>> When this occurs, the bacteria stops moving in the trees and new fire
>> blight incidence should stop.  I would highly recommend avoiding doing
>> anything that would encourage new shoot growth right now.  If it were me,
>> I
>> would just wait until the dormant period to aggressively remove
>> everything.  There is much debate about cleaning pruning shears between
>> cuts.  I don’t recommend it because the bacteria can move 3 feet beyond
>> the
>> site of visible infection, so disinfesting is a moot point.  Here is my
>> latest article (June 26, 2018) in Penn State Fruit Times about what to do
>> about fire blight now (it’s just below the info about apple scab):
>>
>>
>>
>> https://extension.psu.edu/mid-season-tree-fruit-disease-update
>>
>>
>>
>> And a note: do not spray any streptomycin.  Streptomycin is for bloom
>> time
>> only, and after a trauma event, such as hail. Do not spray it beyond
>> these
>> times.  If you are concerned about new shoot growth (if this is a new
>> orchard pushing right now), I would recommend Cueva to limit spread of
>> shoot blight.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kari Peter, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Research Professor - Tree Fruit Pathology
>> Department of Plant Pathology and Environmental Microbiology
>> Penn State Fruit Research and Extension Center
>> 290 University Dr., P.O. Box 330
>> Biglerville, PA 17307-0330
>>
>> Office: 717-677-6116 Ext. 223
>> Fax: 717-677-4112
>> E-mail: ka...@psu.edu
>> <https://webmail.psu.edu/webmail/shell.cgi?timestamp=1362517824>
>>
>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/drtreefruit
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>> *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com [mailto:
>> apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] *On Behalf Of *Hugh Thomas
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:14 AM
>> *To:* Apple-crop discussion list
>> *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop-2] What to do when fireblight hits tall
>> spindle
>>
>>
>>
>> Doug, it's sort of complicated. First, you probably know the bacteria
>> travels from the tip downwards. The idea is to cut well below where the
>> infection has traveled. You can cut away some bark and see where the
>> brown
>> area meets green cambium. I cut pass this point - well past it. I'm
>> guessing I would cut about three times the length of the affected area.
>> For
>> example, if the tip has died back 6 inches, I would remove 18 inches of
>> that limb. This is my gut but but this has worked for me in the past. I
>> don't know the extent of your knowledge, but you need to be careful not
>> to
>> spread the bacteria with your tools and hands. Some people dip their
>> tools
>> in alcohol or Clorox between cuts. I use Clorox wipes on my shears,
>> making
>> sure I use a fresh wipe almost every cut, as the wipe ought to be very
>> wet.
>> On small limbs, say a quarter of an inch or less, I rip the limb off. The
>> big thing is, take action now!!  With warm weather you can get a lot of
>> damage. If you burn the limbs, don't let the smoke drift into your
>> orchard
>> - something a guy told me....
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2018, at 10:24 PM, "wincowg...@centurylink.net" <
>> wincowg...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>>
>> Doug- where are you located?
>>
>> What rootstock(s)?
>>
>> What cultivars?
>>
>> How old are the trees in your tall spindle?
>>
>> What was your fireblight control program at bloom?
>>
>> any post bloom program(s)
>>
>>
>>
>> Win
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Doug Nelson
>> <doug.nel...@nelsonmultimedia.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I appear to have fireblight popping up in my orchard. The ipm group tells
>> me to prune all limbs back to central leader and not to do any spraying.
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you do?
>>
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