As interesting as this discussion is, based on my experience as a F&V
grower and my work in agricultural policy here in Washington, D.C. I
need to urge extreme caution at the moment with regard to purposely
introducing any ruminant animal into a fresh produce environment.

In response to the growing number of cases over the past decade where
fresh produce has been implicated as the source of food borne
contamination and resulting human illness, especially last fall's
incident with E. coli in leafy greens that resulted in three fatalities
and hundreds of sick people, there is a very real threat that Congress
will enact a law requiring producers of fresh produce to adopt or
eliminate certain cultural practices that potentially compromise the
safety of fresh fruits and vegetables.  They don't care that there are
differences in growing spinach and tree fruit, it's all consumed direct
from the plant without an intermediate heat treatment.

We're doing our best to keep the debate logical from the perspective of
producers and I think we're being effective thanks in large part to
grower-initiated state-level fresh produce safety programs in
California, Florida and Virginia that demonstrate both a legitimate
concern and a meaningful response.  But purposely introducing ruminant
animals into a fresh produce environment, particularly when the source
of the virulent strain of E. Coli 0157:H7 has been directly traced to
ruminant animals, is the exact wrong action to be taking at this
critical time.

Your exposure to liability would appear not worth the limited financial
gain to be expected, but I recognize that's an individual business
decision.  Understand however, that in this case one grower's initial
problem becomes a much bigger problem for the entire grower community.
As it regards the safety of fresh produce the grower community doesn't
have any more strikes left; there will be regulation after the next
major incident.  I urge all growers of fresh produce to do all they
reasonably can to be sure they're not the next unwitting victim of
unintended consequences.

Examine your practices with a view of their possible impact on
contamination of the product you raise, especially if you sell it direct
to consumers.  Irrigation water, human sanitation, animal waste, and
packing line wash water are not the exclusive, but the most usual
sources of contamination.

Ronald L. Gaskill, Director
Congressional Relations for International Trade
American Farm Bureau Federation(r)
600 Maryland Ave., SW; Suite 1000W
Washington, D.C.  20024
Tel: (202) 406-3674     Fax: (202) 406-3604
Cell: (202) 213-0179    E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fleming, William
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:40 PM
To: Apple-Crop
Subject: RE: Apple-Crop: Referral needed - orchards and sheep

I recall years ago reading of what's called a Spanish halter used for
sheep grazing in orchards. What the halter did was to keep the sheep
from being able to look up. When they can't look up the only orchard
foliage they are able to eat is the very lowest hanging. 


Bill Fleming
Montana State University
Western Ag Research Center
Corvallis, MT 59828


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Howell
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:10 AM
To: Apple-Crop
Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Referral needed - orchards and sheep

Several years ago we worked with Linda Hardesty of WSU's Department of
Natural Resource Sciences on a LISA grant to study the potential of
using sheep to control under story growth in a mature cherry orchard.
The pasture treatments were - 1. what existed naturally, 2. a planted
mixture of orchard grass and Bird's foot trefoil.  Grazed and non-grazed
plots were set up for each treatment.  You should contact Linda
([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) for more advice on forage for sheep in an
orchard setting for Western Washington.

A larger part of the experiment for us was convincing sheep not to eat
cherry foliage.  Those efforts included barriers (movable pens, fencing,
head elevation restrictors for the sheep) and aversion training (similar
to what some alcoholics might endure to wean themselves from the
bottle).  We only had problems with debarking when the animals were
allowed to stay in the orchard for extended periods of time.  It was
best only to allow them in the orchard for short feeding cycles.
Bedding down was best allowed in a nearby pen.

All in all, it was a very interesting study.  However, in the end I
found the effort more than the wool and meat were worth.  I valued my
trees as significantly more important than the small livestock
operation.  Someone else might figure out a better way. Linda tells me
she knows of a few growers who allow sheepherders to sweep their flocks
through large orchards in the fall to clean up weeds, leaves and fruit
drops.

Bill Howell
Yakima Valley, WA


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From: "Stina Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Apple-Crop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 1970 3:54 AM
Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Referral needed


> I tried sheep under my full sized pear trees, and ended up having to
> put fences around each tree as the sheep were climbing up in the tree
> to eat the young fruit and the leaves.  I pulled the sheep before they
> could girdle the bark.  I got mixed results as far as mowing, and as I
> am an orchardist, not a livestockist, the sheep were small when they
> went to slaughter.  Maybe others have had better results, but I found
> it cheaper and easier to buy lamb from my neighbor, and continue to
use
> my mower in the orchard.  Best of luck.
>
> Stina Booth
> Booth Canyon Orchard
> Twisp, Washington
> On Friday, June 22, 2007, at 08:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hello Listers:
> >
> > Can anyone refer me to a turf specialist in USDA Extension so that I
> > can find these answers?
> >
> > There was a USDA SARE project completed a number of years ago which
> > demonstrated the potential to take income from two farm enterprises:
> > Trellised tree fruit grown over a grass orchard floor grazed by
Sheep.
> >  Sounds impossible, I know, but it was successful as well as
organic,
> > and it reduced floor maintenance considerably.
> >
> > What I would like to know is what was/were the grass(es) used.  Here
> > is why.  Sheep are vulnerable to endophyte toxicity which is common
in
> > some grass species, therefore the species/varieties of grasses must
be
> > endophyte free.  I suspect the answer will be one or more of the rye
> > grasses which I understand are used for grazing in New Zealand.  It
> > needs also to be hardy in Zone 6-7.
> >
> > I would also hope that any such endophyte free grass(es) be
something
> > more manageable than the heavy producing forage varieties used for
> > green chop and hay production so that it is possible to use power
> > mowers if necessary, esp. as the harvest season approaches after the
> > sheep have been pulled off.
> >
> > Thanks you kindly!
> > D. Del Boca
> > N.W. Washington State
> >
> >
> >
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