I don't know how it could be done, but an extra 20MT/Ha of not-so-crisp, not very juicy, and bland flavored HoneyCrisp is something that the industry should make every attempt to avoid. I think Tom's last goal is far more important to overall sales and profitability than getting the extra tonnage. We should encourage people to eat apples by giving them a great experience every time they do.
Having said that, given the preponderance of small, direct-market growers in my part of the world, New England, displays of mushy, dry, bland fruit at the supermarket will help them, though probably not overall apple consumption. Dan --- Daniel R. Cooley, Professor of Plant Pathology Stockbridge School of Agriculture Fernald Hall 103 University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 Office: 413-577-3803 | FAX 413-545-2115 http://people.umass.edu/dcooley On Nov 21, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Tom Auvil <tau...@nwi.net> wrote: > World record yield? Not certain. Do know that the yield benchmarks are moving > up in the Northwest. Some growers now manage Gala for an average yield of 100 > MT/Ha, and have a target benchmark of 130 MT/Ha. In the 2012 crop many blocks > of all different varieties approached the 100 MT/Ha expected yield. At the > WSU fruit school in 2008, the standard yield in the economic presentations > were 50 MT/Ha with a target of 70 MT/ Ha. > > The highest sustained yield discussed in the Northwest has been Granny Smith > on Mark rootstock at 140 MT/Ha or ~140 bins with 900 pounds of fruit per bin. > The rootstock influences the spur density down the limbs, so Mark has been > the standard for productivity. The replant tolerant Geneva rootstocks such as > G.41, G.935, G.214, G.210, G.30 have the crop density equal to or better than > Mark. > > The discussion of yield is evolving from total yield to yield of fruit with > high and consistent consumer acceptance. Highly productive varieties such as > Fuji and HoneyCrisp may need to implement rigorous crop load management by > counting spurs at pruning, flowers at bloom and fruit in June to cap yields > at 80 bins or less, in consistent, full canopy blocks. The goal is to have > crisp, juicy, great flavor fruit every bite. > > Tom and Rose Auvil > PO Box 408 > Orondo, WA 98843 > > tau...@nwi.net > > From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net > [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf ofdbals...@mnsi.net > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:28 PM > To: 'Apple-crop discussion list' > Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Vineland 1 rootstock > > Different subject … does anyone know what the current world record for apple > production /acre is . The last record I have ever heard quoted was a7 year > old block of Granny smith apples from New Zealand around 130 metric tonne per > hectare in the early 1990’s.does anyone know where a person might source such > info or r what the current record might be ? > > Thanks > Doug > > Doug and Leslie > 519-738-4819 > > The Fruit Wagon - Quality Fruit and Flowers in Season > www.thefruitwagon.com > > <image001.png><image002.png> > > From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net > [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Hugh Thomas > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:19 PM > To: Apple-crop discussion list > Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Vineland 1 rootstock > > I've read that V1 is resistant to fire blight. See: > http://www.plant.uoguelph.ca/treefruit/outreach/files/PerformanceandAvailabilityoftheVinelandAppleRootstocks-Dec2006.pdf > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Deborah I. Breth <d...@cornell.edu> wrote: > Is V1 resistant or susceptible to fire blight? > > > Deborah I. Breth > Cornell Cooperative Extension - Lake Ontario Fruit Program > Team Leader and IPM Specialist in Tree Fruit and Berries > 12690 Rt. 31 > Albion, NY 14411 > > phone: 585.798.4265 x 36 > mobile: 585.747.6039 > fax: 585.798.5191 > > email: d...@cornell.edu > LOF website > > From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net > [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Huffman, Leslie > (OMAFRA) > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:02 AM > To: Apple-crop discussion list; Jon Clements > > Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Vineland 1 rootstock > > I agree with Jon, V1 definitely has more vigour. > > Leslie > > Leslie Huffman > 519-738-1256 > leslie.huff...@ontario.ca > > From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net > [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Hugh Thomas > Sent: October-30-13 2:47 PM > To: Jon Clements; Apple-crop discussion list > Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Vineland 1 rootstock > > Thanks Jon, > I did order some V1 trees from Cameron yesterday and I'm glad you told me > about the spacing, as I was heading for 4 feet. I''ll plant 5x12 and give > you a report as the next few seasons go by. > Hugh > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jon Clements <jon.cleme...@umass.edu> wrote: > Hugh, see this for a start: > > http://www.extension.org/pages/60856/apple-rootstock-info:-v1#.UnFOtJRga9U > > Several growers here in Massachusetts have planted Honeycrisp (and maybe some > other varieties?) on V.1 in recent years. The trees have done very well, > however, they are larger than B.9 and M.9. Planting 3-4 feet apart is running > into some crowding issues. They have been precocious, but I would plant them > 5-6 ft. apart using a vertical axis type training. Trees I believe have come > from Cameron Nursery. > > Jon > > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com> wrote: > In my search for a cold tolerant rootstock, I ran across Vineland 1. Any > input on this rootstock from anyone? B9 Honeycrisp trees are hard to find so > I'm considering V1. > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > > > > -- > Jon Clements > aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' > UMass Cold Spring Orchard > 393 Sabin St. > Belchertown, MA 01007 > 413-478-7219 > umassfruit.com > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6794 - Release Date: 10/30/13 > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
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