Hi Tim
   Glad to hear you are still working on E.a.  (Congratulation on
retirement by the way).  I think Maine qualifies as having had infection
periods when we are fairly certain that blossom infections occurred.  I'm
on the road today but will send you Excel data next week.
- Glen

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Smith, Timothy J <smit...@wsu.edu> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
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>
> Re:  Fire Blight and models.
>
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>
> I was quite interested in the comment that despite the models indicating
> high risk, that you generally did not experience much blight this year.
>   Also, that it may have been the abnormally dry conditions that may
> explain this.
>
>
>
> This situation occurs more often than not in the Pacific Northwest.  The
> infection process modeled by both MaryBlyt  and CougarBlight requires (*in
> this order*):
>
> First, Open blossoms, something easy to see, but often overlooked post
> primary bloom, when secondary bloom are often present especially on trees
> with dwarfing rootstocks.
>
>
>
> Second,   Contamination of the stigma surface by E. a. bacteria, which is
> difficult to detect rapidly, but there is ongoing research on this issue.
> “CougarBlight” asks you to adjust your temperature risk thresholds and use
> your orchard history and judgment here.  This contamination is not present
> on most flowers in most orchards, but if there are cankers nearby, this
> situation degrades rapidly, and many flowers are contaminated, the closer
> to the canker source, the higher the risk.  I think there are more sources
> of fire blight bacteria in the general environment in the northeastern USA
> due to your woodlots and forests (with feral apples and native hosts such
> as Hawthorne)  as contrasted with the treeless conditions around many
> eastern Washington orchards.
>
>
>
> Third, Sufficient heat over sufficient time to enable the bacterial colony
> to reach the numbers necessary to cause flower infection. There is an
> interaction between this factor and the number two factor. Larger initial
> colony size will reduce the amount of time and total heat necessary to
> colony to reach this hundred thousand to 1 million bacteria colony size
> necessary for infection.  IT sounds as if these conditions were met very
> well in the East this season.
>
>
>
> Fourth, the sufficiently contaminated flowers must be lightly wetted to
> allow the bacteria to move from the stigma surface into the nectaries.
> Then the battle begins. The bacteria need to thrive in the nectary in order
> to reach numbers sufficient to switch on their virulence. Once this is
> accomplished you have an infection.
>
>
>
> In the Pacific Northwest we have plentiful supply of open apple and pear
> flowers over an extended period of time.  Fire blight is relatively rare in
> any given region most seasons, so most growers can assume little pressure
> from the bacteria during most seasons. We spent a lot of time emphasizing
> sanitation because a little fire blight one year can carry over and lead to
> great deal of fire blight the next year.  Because of this documented common
> lack of contamination of flowers by E. a., we very often experience a
> series of days of temperatures sufficient to lead to fire blight,  but with
> only scattered subsequent fire blight showing up over the next two or three
> weeks. We are often able to attribute that scattered  blight to dew
> formation on flowers, as it often occurs in areas that are more prone to
> dew, such as frost pockets or other low areas in the orchard.   When we
> have a rainy day after a series of warm days, those areas that have been in
> bloom during those warm days have increased experience with more common and
> severe fire blight, which in this case depends on the presence or absence
> of E. amylovora.
>
>
>
> CougarBlight was developed where blossom wetting is an exceptional event.
> I try to counsel people using this model in areas where blossom wetting is
> common to look at the heat risk as primary, and to assume the blossom
> wetting will occur, often almost every night.  Dew and rain are the rule
> rather than the exception in many areas where apples and pears are grown.
>  This doesn't change the principle of the model that heat is the driver for
> infection, the blossom wetting is the trigger for the infection event.
>
>
>
> We can learn a great deal about interpreting models by looking at the
> weather data around the time that we are fairly certain that isolated
> infection events occurred.  We can also look at when expected infections
> did not occur.   It would be very helpful to me if any of you would share
> weather data including rainfall, hourly temperature (or daily temps) and
> especially leaf wetness readings.  Please send data that covers days from
> first bloom to about 3 to 4 weeks after petal fall.  Excel files are a real
> time saver.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Tim Smith
>
> WSU (Emeritus)
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> 4.
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> *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:
> apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Cooley
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:22 AM
> *To:* Apple-crop discussion list <apple-crop@virtualorchard.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] Looking for comments on fire blight management
>
>
>
> A group of us wrote the article attached for the UMass/Rutgers publication
> Fruit Notes/New Jersey Horticultural News. *MailScanner has detected a
> possible fraud attempt from "urldefense.proofpoint.com" claiming to be*
> http://umassfruitnotes.com/v80n2/Cover802.html
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://umassfruitnotes.com/v80n2/Cover802.html&k=EWEYHnIvm0nsSxnW5y9VIw%3D%3D%0A&r=VR1vaGJPOzxhk9dUVIL5%2Bg%3D%3D%0A&m=UfabeZAWBFZVVH4RygbVAxxf%2BYztNRlyB0BCPGgl9kE%3D%0A&s=6f16d747d2ee23b3be62b4005b0a579f17fdd4826d89fe8c7fc83eb8b4a9b1a6>
> The key point is that even in those years when fire blight doesn’t do much,
> and particularly the following year, people need to stay alert. Yes, fire
> blight can be kept at non-damaging levels, but it takes regular attention
> every year.
>
>
>
> This year in southern New England and the Hudson Valley, the two fire
> bight models, Maryblyt and CougarBlyt, alone or in NEWA, Ag-Radar and other
> decision support tools, shot off the charts warning of unprecedented fire
> bight risk. Growers in the region had experienced a bad year last year, and
> were generally ready to use strep early and often during bloom. Fire blight
> never really appeared at problematic levels.
>
>
>
> Much to our puzzlement, this was true even for trees that didn’t get strep
> treatments, leading us to wonder what was going on with the models and the
> disease. The best we have so far is that it was so dry during bloom in most
> areas that even though epiphytic populations of bacteria were tremendous,
> they never got washed into flowers to cause infection. Another possibility
> is that the extremely dry weather suppressed bacterial growth, something
> not taken into account in the models.
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
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Glen Koehler
University of Maine Cooperative Extension
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