We have a T4050f with the optional front 3pt. arms and PTO. We also have a T4060f, both are orchard models with cabs. They are real workhorses. I love the supersteer and how well they ride even on rough ground. We also have 3 John Deere 5101EN models. We have appreciated the economy PTO, it saves a ton on fuel. We went with the higher horsepower of the 5101so we would still have plenty of power at the lower engine RPM running in economy PTO. With this option we can run 10 hours spraying on a tank of fuel, where the New Holland is about 5 hours. The John Deere has a more comfortable cab and offers more operator comfort especially during long days. We like the electric PTO switch and shuttle shift. It doesn't have a a very tight turning radius and rides very rough compared to the New Holland and with the high hood it is harder to see up close to the front. Our dealer told us that John Deere 5101EN is no longer available. I am not sure about the lower horsepower models, but apparently they will be redesigning the EN models to allow for the new Tier 4 requirements. For maneuvering in close quarters and general working we prefer the New Holland. We don't have the vineyard model so I can't comment on the cab comfort. However the front 3 pt. hitch and PTO are valuable. However the front PTO is 1000 rpm and runs in a reverse direction. We run a Perfect Mower on the front which is great for visibility close to harvest and the option to pull a sprayer at the same time. We will be mounting a 3pt. forklift on the front for harvest which can be taken off quickly because it is simply 3 pt. hitch. It also comes with mid mount valves for hydraulic needs up front. For fuel economy the economy PTO saves us a lot on fuel with the John Deere. The Deere is more comfortable for long hours. There are a few more options on the Deere, like lift arm controls on the back fenders for ease of hooking up implements by yourself. Both tractors have their strong points, and weaknesses. I am not sure what the retooled Deere will be like, New Holland is in their 2nd year of Tier 4 engines. This is are tight for service on both tractors due to being so compact. We have had electrical and air conditioning issues with both brands. Hope this helps. On Nov 7, 2015 9:55 AM, "Kurt W. Alstede" <k...@alstedefarms.com> wrote:
> Hello Fellow Growers: > > > > We are evaluating a new orchard tractor purchase and wanted to solicit > input from fellow growers. We currently have John Deere’s…specifically a > 5320N 2WD and a 5420N 4WD; both with cabs. We are very pleased with both > these tractors. > > > > We are currently looking at a John Deere 5085EN versus a New Holland > T4.75V. They are both essentially the same tractor in terms of base > features and horsepower; prices are similar. We are concerned about the > overall height of the John Deere caused by the Tier 3 pollution controls > that have been added to the tops of the engines. Contrary, we are > intrigued by how relatively small the packaging of the New Holland vineyard > tractor is with an overall width of just 48”. We see a lot of > opportunities for this tightly packaged New Holland in our brambles and > blueberries in addition to our high density orchard blocks. Having never > owned a New Holland narrow tractor and I was hoping that some of you might > lend some insight into your personal observations. It appears to us that > New Holland has put a lot of R & D into their narrow and orchard tractors > and that their “Blue Cab” is quite nicely engineered. Again, we would > appreciate your feedback. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Kurt > > > > > > *Kurt W. Alstede* > > General Manager, > > Alstede Farms, LLC > > P.O. Box 278 > > 1 Alstede Farms Lane, > > Chester, New Jersey 07930 > > United States of America > > > > Tel: 908-879-7189 > > Fax: 908-879-7815 > > www.alstedefarms.com > > > > [image: cid:image001.jpg@01CFB1AF.83320400][image: Picture1] > > > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > >
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