anyone out there on the east coast have a good source for white reflective ground cover? Apparently Extenday is only available in Washington state and California.
John Bruguiere
Dickie Bros. Orchard

On 1/11/2016 9:44 AM, Hugh Thomas wrote:
Another way to reduce N is to grow grass under the trees and mow and bag the grass and haul the grass clippings away. Sounds labor intensive but hot so bad if you use a commercial mower.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Arthur Kelly <kellyorcha...@gmail.com <mailto:kellyorcha...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    We are trying some hard-cider blends with them Mo.

    Art

    On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:53 PM, maurice tougas
    <appleman.maur...@gmail.com <mailto:appleman.maur...@gmail.com>>
    wrote:

        "JuicyGold".

        On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Shoemaker, William H
        <wshoe...@illinois.edu <mailto:wshoe...@illinois.edu>> wrote:

            What region did you observe the Morren's Jonagored Supra
            on B9 Jon? Can you say something about chilling
            requirement for that cultivar? I think Jonagold is an
            excellent apple for fresh eating. If the New England Apple
            Association wants to brand it, I think they are making a
            good choice.

            Bill

            *William H. Shoemaker *

            /Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist/

            /University of Illinois/

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            *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] apple size

            Root pruning: YES
            Withhold nitrogen: YES
            Minimize dormant pruning, do some summer pruning (but
            don't remove fruit): YES
            Use Apogee: YES
            Over-crop: YES maybe, but use NAA and/or Ethrel to promote
            return bloom development
            Use B.9 rootstock (as opposed to M.9): YES
            Make sure you have enough variety to pollinate: YES

            I found Morren's Jonagored Supra (Willow Drive) grown on
            B.9 rootstock to be a very nice Jonagold strain. Good
            crops without too many large fruit. Still have to watch
            biennial bearing. I would plant that strain in a heartbeat
            if I want Jonagold.

            Did you hear New England Apple Association is going to
            brand Jonagold apples grown in New England? Not sure,
            however, what they are calling it?

            Any other ideas out there?

            Jon

            On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Hugh Thomas
            <hughthoma...@gmail.com <mailto:hughthoma...@gmail.com>>
            wrote:

                I've always wondered about root pruning with a deep
                running and large disk. Just a thought...

                On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:48 AM, David Kollas
                <kol...@frontier.com <mailto:kol...@frontier.com>> wrote:



                            Art:

                      I don’t know whence the observations or
                    measurements have come, but I saw a rootstock
                    comparison
                            in which G202 was said to produce “smaller
                    fruit size.”   For the reason you mention, I hope
                    this is true, and of
                            more than just statistical significance. I
                    suspect that if it were a practical difference, we
                    would have heard more
                            about it.

                            David Kollas
                            Kollas Orchard, Connecticut


                    On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Arthur Kelly
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                    <mailto:kellyorcha...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                    > Any suggestions out there for how to reduce
                    fruit size without getting into biennial bearing
                    as in not thinning? Some varieties (Jonagold)
                    would be more marketable if they were 2.75 - 3.0"
                    instead of all more than 3.0".
                    >
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