Ok cool I'll try with the ECM version later :)))
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On 2010-07-11, at 10:43, Elliott Slaughter <elliottslaugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, the binaries are only binaries, just like their Windows counterparts.
>
> You'll need to get the latest lispbuilder version from SVN because I had to
> hack cocoahelper a little bit to get it to find the libraries.
>
> Also, I found that the problem I expected to find with SDL_ttf also applies
> to SDL_image, etc. So for the moment, only the SDL binaries are likely to
> work properly.
>
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Justin Heyes-Jones <justi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> sigh. Trying to get anything working in Common Lisp is an exercise in
> frustration.
>
> anyway, I realised that the binaries you put together don't contain the lisp
> source, so I need to download the lispbuilder source package. so I grabbed
> /Users/justinhj/Downloads/lispbuilder-sdl-0.9.8.1.tgz
>
> the asdf-install failed trying to load the cocoa helper library
>
> Unable to load any of the alternatives:
> ((:FRAMEWORK #1="cocoahelper") (:DEFAULT #1#))
> [Condition of type CFFI:LOAD-FOREIGN-LIBRARY-ERROR]
>
> Restarts:
> 0: [RETRY] Try loading the foreign library again.
> 1: [USE-VALUE] Use another library instead.
> 2: [TRY-RECOMPILING] Recompile cocoahelper and try loading it again
> 3: [RETRY] Retry performing #<ASDF:LOAD-OP NIL {1003C98A21}> on
> #<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "cocoahelper" {1004171031}>.
> 4: [ACCEPT] Continue, treating #<ASDF:LOAD-OP NIL {1003C98A21}> on
> #<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "cocoahelper" {1004171031}> as having been successful.
> 5: [RETRY] Retry installation
> --more--
>
> Backtrace:
> 0: (CFFI::FL-ERROR "Unable to load any of the alternatives:~%
> ~S")[:EXTERNAL]
> 1: (CFFI:LOAD-FOREIGN-LIBRARY LISPBUILDER-SDL-COCOAHELPER::COCOAHELPER)
> 2: (SB-FASL::LOAD-FASL-GROUP #<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM for "file
> /Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/cocoahelper/cocoahelper.fasl"
> {1003D98561}>)
> 3: ((FLET SB-THREAD::WITH-RECURSIVE-LOCK-THUNK))
> 4: (SB-FASL::LOAD-AS-FASL #<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM for "file
> /Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/cocoahelper/cocoahelper.fasl"
> {1003D98561}> NIL #<unavailable argument>)
> 5: ((FLET SB-FASL::LOAD-STREAM) #<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM for "file
> /Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/cocoahelper/cocoahelper.fasl"
> {1003D98561}> T)
> 6: (LOAD
> #P"/Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/cocoahelper/cocoahelper.fasl")[:EXTERNAL]
> 7: ((SB-PCL::FAST-METHOD ASDF:PERFORM (ASDF:LOAD-OP ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE))
> ..)
> 8: ((LAMBDA (SB-PCL::.PV. SB-PCL::.NEXT-METHOD-CALL. SB-PCL::.ARG0.
> SB-PCL::.ARG1.)) ..)
> 9: ((SB-PCL::FAST-METHOD ASDF:PERFORM ASDF:AROUND (ASDF:LOAD-OP
> ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE)) ..)
> 10: ((LAMBDA ()))
> 11: ((FLET SB-THREAD::WITH-RECURSIVE-LOCK-THUNK))
> 12: ((FLET SB-C::WITH-IT))
> 13: (ASDF:OPERATE ASDF:LOAD-OP "cocoahelper")[:EXTERNAL]
> 14: ((LABELS ASDF-INSTALL::ONE-ITER)
> ("/Users/justinhj/Downloads/lispbuilder-sdl-0.9.8.1.tgz"))
> 15: (ASDF-INSTALL:INSTALL)[:EXTERNAL]
> 16: (SB-INT:SIMPLE-EVAL-IN-LEXENV (ASDF-INSTALL:INSTALL
> "/Users/justinhj/Downloads/lispbuilder-sdl-0.9.8.1.tgz") #<NULL-LEXENV>)
> --more--
>
>
> On 11 July 2010 08:25, Justin Heyes-Jones <justi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I get the same error if I decompress the tgz, point central-registry at it,
> and do a load-op.
>
>
> On 11 July 2010 08:18, Justin Heyes-Jones <justi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i'm a bit of a Mac noob so I may be doing something wrong. I tested the
> lisbuilder-sdl binary with sbcl and got the error below when installing
> (asdf-install:install
> "/Users/justinhj/Downloads/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-binaries-1.2.14.tgz")
>
> I've downloaded lispworks too, any links to how you install asdf-install on
> it?
>
> failed to find the TRUENAME of
> /Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/bin/package.lisp:
> No such file or directory
> [Condition of type SB-INT:SIMPLE-FILE-ERROR]
>
> Restarts:
> 0: [TRY-RECOMPILING] Try recompiling package
> 1: [RETRY] Retry performing #<ASDF:COMPILE-OP NIL {1003C74501}> on
> #<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "package" {1003C6CCD1}>.
> 2: [ACCEPT] Continue, treating #<ASDF:COMPILE-OP NIL {1003C74501}> on
> #<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "package" {1003C6CCD1}> as having been successful.
> 3: [RETRY] Retry installation
> 4: [RETRY] Retry SLIME REPL evaluation request.
> 5: [ABORT] Return to SLIME's top level.
> --more--
>
> Backtrace:
> 0: (SB-IMPL::SIMPLE-FILE-PERROR "failed to find the TRUENAME of ~A"
> #P"/Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/bin/package.lisp" 2)
> 1: ((FLET SB-IMPL::FAIL) "failed to find the TRUENAME of ~A"
> #P"/Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/bin/package.lisp" 2)
> 2: (SB-IMPL::QUERY-FILE-SYSTEM
> #P"/Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/bin/package.lisp" :TRUENAME T)
> 3: (TRUENAME
> #P"/Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/bin/package.lisp")
> 4: ((FLET SB-C::TRY-WITH-TYPE)
> #P"/Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/bin/package.lisp" "lisp" T)
> 5: (SB-C::VERIFY-SOURCE-FILE
> #P"/Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/bin/package.lisp")
> 6: (SB-C::VERIFY-SOURCE-FILE
> #P"/Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/bin/package.lisp")[:EXTERNAL]
> 7: (COMPILE-FILE
> #P"/Users/justinhj/.sbcl/site/lispbuilder-sdl/bin/package.lisp")[:EXTERNAL]
> 8: ((SB-PCL::FAST-METHOD ASDF:PERFORM (ASDF:COMPILE-OP
> ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE)) ..)
> 9: ((LAMBDA (SB-PCL::.PV. SB-PCL::.NEXT-METHOD-CALL. SB-PCL::.ARG0.
> SB-PCL::.ARG1.)) ..)
> 10: ((SB-PCL::FAST-METHOD ASDF:PERFORM ASDF:AROUND (ASDF:COMPILE-OP
> ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE)) ..)
> 11: ((LAMBDA ()))
> 12: ((FLET SB-THREAD::WITH-RECURSIVE-LOCK-THUNK))
> 13: ((FLET SB-C::WITH-IT))
> 14: (ASDF:OPERATE ASDF:LOAD-OP "lispbuilder-sdl-binaries")[:EXTERNAL]
> 15: ((LABELS ASDF-INSTALL::ONE-ITER)
> ("/Users/justinhj/Downloads/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-binaries-1.2.14.tgz"))
> 16: (ASDF-INSTALL:INSTALL)[:EXTERNAL]
> 17: (SB-INT:SIMPLE-EVAL-IN-LEXENV (ASDF-INSTALL:INSTALL
> "/Users/justinhj/Downloads/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-binaries-1.2.14.tgz")
> #<NULL-LEXENV>)
> 18: (SWANK::EVAL-REGION "(asdf-install:install
> \"/Users/justinhj/Downloads/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-binaries-1.2.14.tgz\")\n")
> 19: ((LAMBDA ()))
> 20: (SWANK::TRACK-PACKAGE #<CLOSURE (LAMBDA #) {1002E1FB69}>)
> 21: (SWANK::CALL-WITH-RETRY-RESTART "Retry SLIME REPL evaluation request."
> #<CLOSURE (LAMBDA #) {1002E1FA89}>)
> 22: (SWANK::CALL-WITH-BUFFER-SYNTAX NIL #<CLOSURE (LAMBDA #) {1002E1FA59}>)
> 23: (SWANK::REPL-EVAL "(asdf-install:install
> \"/Users/justinhj/Downloads/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-binaries-1.2.14.tgz\")\n")
> 24: (SB-INT:SIMPLE-EVAL-IN-LEXENV (SWANK:LISTENER-EVAL
> "(asdf-install:install
> \"/Users/justinhj/Downloads/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-binaries-1.2.14.tgz\")\n")
> #<NULL-LEXENV>)
> 25: (SWANK::EVAL-FOR-EMACS (SWANK:LISTENER-EVAL "(asdf-install:install
> \"/Users/justinhj/Downloads/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-binaries-1.2.14.tgz\")\n")
> "COMMON-LISP-USER" 43)
> 26: (SWANK::PROCESS-REQUESTS T)
> 27: ((LAMBDA ()))
> 28: (SWANK-BACKEND::CALL-WITH-BREAK-HOOK #<FUNCTION
> SWANK:SWANK-DEBUGGER-HOOK> #<CLOSURE (LAMBDA #) {1002E1C379}>)
> 29: ((FLET SWANK-BACKEND:CALL-WITH-DEBUGGER-HOOK) #<FUNCTION
> SWANK:SWANK-DEBUGGER-HOOK> #<CLOSURE (LAMBDA #) {1002E1C379}>)
> 30: (SWANK::CALL-WITH-BINDINGS ((*STANDARD-OUTPUT* . #) (*STANDARD-INPUT* .
> #) (*TRACE-OUTPUT* . #) (*ERROR-OUTPUT* . #) (*DEBUG-IO* . #) (*QUERY-IO* .
> #) ...) #<CLOSURE (LAMBDA #) {1002E1C3A9}>)
> 31: (SWANK::CALL-WITH-CONNECTION #<SWANK::CONNECTION {1003383951}> #<CLOSURE
> (LAMBDA #) {1002E1C379}>)
> 32: (SWANK::HANDLE-REQUESTS #<SWANK::CONNECTION {1003383951}> T)
> 33: ((LABELS SWANK-BACKEND::RUN) 7)
> 34: (SB-IMPL::SUB-SUB-SERVE-EVENT NIL NIL)
> 35: (SB-IMPL::SUB-SERVE-EVENT NIL NIL NIL)
> 36: (SB-SYS:WAIT-UNTIL-FD-USABLE 0 :INPUT NIL)
> 37: (SB-IMPL::REFILL-INPUT-BUFFER #<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM for "standard input"
> {1002A38171}>)
> 38: (SB-IMPL::INPUT-CHAR/UTF-8 #<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM for "standard input"
> {1002A38171}> NIL #:EOF-OBJECT)
> 39: ((LAMBDA (&REST REST)) #<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM for "standard input"
> {1002A38171}> NIL #:EOF-OBJECT)
> 40: ((LAMBDA (&REST REST)) #<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM for "standard input"
> {1002A38171}> NIL #:EOF-OBJECT)[:OPTIONAL]
> 41: (READ-CHAR #<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM for "standard input" {1002A38171}> NIL
> #:EOF-OBJECT #<unused argument>)
> 42: (READ-CHAR #<SYNONYM-STREAM :SYMBOL SB-SYS:*STDIN* {1000169341}> NIL
> #:EOF-OBJECT #<unused argument>)
> 43: (SB-IMPL::%READ-PRESERVING-WHITESPACE #<SYNONYM-STREAM :SYMBOL
> SB-SYS:*STDIN* {1000169341}> NIL (NIL) T)
> 44: (SB-IMPL::%READ-PRESERVING-WHITESPACE #<SYNONYM-STREAM :SYMBOL
> SB-SYS:*STDIN* {1000169341}> NIL (NIL) NIL)
> 45: (READ #<SYNONYM-STREAM :SYMBOL SB-SYS:*STDIN* {1000169341}> NIL (NIL)
> NIL)
> 46: (SB-IMPL::REPL-READ-FORM-FUN #<SYNONYM-STREAM :SYMBOL SB-SYS:*STDIN*
> {1000169341}> #<unavailable argument>)
> 47: (SB-IMPL::REPL-FUN NIL)
> 48: ((LAMBDA ()))
> 49: (SB-IMPL::%WITH-REBOUND-IO-SYNTAX #<CLOSURE (LAMBDA #) {1002A30179}>)
> 50: (SB-IMPL::TOPLEVEL-REPL NIL)
> 51: (SB-IMPL::TOPLEVEL-INIT)
> 52: ((LABELS SB-IMPL::RESTART-LISP))
>
>
> On 10 July 2010 18:39, Elliott Slaughter <elliottslaugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> After learning quite a bit more about Mac's dyld than I cared to know, I
> finally found the magical invocations which make these "just work". Now I can
> say with a reasonable amount of confidence that you should be able to just
> drop these binaries into a clean Lispbuilder install and expect them to work.
> (With the possible exception of SDL_ttf, which might require a little bit
> more magic.)
>
> Please try them out and tell me if the work or break on your machine:
>
> http://lispbuilder.googlecode.com/files/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-binaries-1.2.14.tgz
> http://lispbuilder.googlecode.com/files/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-image-binaries-1.2.10.tgz
> http://lispbuilder.googlecode.com/files/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-mixer-binaries-1.2.11.tgz
> http://lispbuilder.googlecode.com/files/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-ttf-binaries-2.0.10.tgz
> http://lispbuilder.googlecode.com/files/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-gfx-binaries-2.0.16.tgz
>
> Enjoy :-)
>
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Elliott Slaughter
> <elliottslaugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My first attempt at binaries are up:
>
> http://lispbuilder.googlecode.com/files/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-binaries-1.2.14.tgz
> http://lispbuilder.googlecode.com/files/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-image-binaries-1.2.10.tgz
> http://lispbuilder.googlecode.com/files/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-mixer-binaries-1.2.11.tgz
> http://lispbuilder.googlecode.com/files/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-ttf-binaries-2.0.10.tgz
> http://lispbuilder.googlecode.com/files/mac-lispbuilder-sdl-gfx-binaries-2.0.16.tgz
>
> They don't quite work as well as I'd like--cocoahelper expects to find
> SDL.framework in /Library/Frameworks even if you put them both in the same
> directory. I haven't found a fix for that, so it isn't quite a
> drop-in-and-forget solution yet. If any of you have ideas for how to fix
> that, I'd really appreciate it.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Elliott Slaughter
> <elliottslaugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll try to see if I can get binary packages built in the next couple of days.
>
> P.S. Cocoahelper doesn't compile without modifying the makefile if you are
> using the SDL frameworks provided on libsdl.org. The version of SDL from
> Macports is broken because it hard-codes various system paths into the
> binaries, which prevent you from distributing it to anyone without the
> Macports version of SDL installed.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Justin Heyes-Jones <justi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> I have very little time to spend on this project but I did recently become a
> Macbook owner and I set about getting lispbuilder working on it. I'd be happy
> to test the binaries when they are ready.
>
> I did find the instructions we already have on the wiki work up to a point
>
> http://code.google.com/p/lispbuilder/wiki/DownloadInstallation#OS_X
>
> But I think I got sbcl, gcc and SDL from this project instead. The install is
> really simple.
>
> http://www.macports.org/
>
> On 9 July 2010 10:06, Oisín <denpasho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9 July 2010 07:22, Elliott Slaughter <elliottslaugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > I've been thinking: we provide binary downloads for Windows, but not for any
> > other platform. On Linux, we don't need it. But on OS X, it might be nice.
> > After all, OS X does not come with a C compiler by default, nor does it have
> > a package manager to make downloading SDL easy. Since OS X has
> > platform-specific binaries that need to be compiled (cocoahelper), it would
> > be nice to provide those for download. Providing SDL might be nice too, but
> > I think that's optional compared to providing cocoahelper.
> > I would be more than happy to use my system to build such binaries.
>
> That's a very good idea. I found it quite difficult as a newbie Lisper
> to just "jump in" due to difficulties getting cocoahelper to work etc.
> Got it sorted out after a while, but it would be nice if other newbies
> didn't have to do it themselves.
>
> Oisín
>
> > --
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> >
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> > the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay
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