On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 19:11, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo <[email protected]> wrote: > So, some of the questions (feel free to expand) that I am interested in > hearing > opinions about: > > - Does anybody know what's the current status and future plans for Aptitude? > > - Does Cupt, Apt2 or some of the ongoing efforts based on PackageKit provide > a > complete replacement for what Aptitude is used today?
First, define for what aptitude is used nowadays, then we can answer that - maybe. Personally, while i have never used aptitude, i wouldn't say that either of these is a direct competitor to aptitude. PackageKit is bound to dbus, something you seldom find on e.g. servers while as far as i know cupt and "apt2" don't have a curses interface planed or even implemented, but as a die hard APT user who never touched the others that's only guesswork. > - Is there anyone interested in reviving the project, or that at least > considered seriously the idea lately? > > - Does Debian as a whole think that it's worth pursuing? Maybe everybody is > using just apt, synaptic or something else doing the task much better, and I > didn't realise :) "Debian as a whole" properly thinks nothing. You will find every shade of "total crap" up to "tool from heaven" and that is fine. That said, the release-notes switched to apt-get for dist-upgrading for squeeze and it will likely stay that way for wheezy - and that is fine, too. A distribution upgrade is properly the least interactive action on a system, so it's hard for an interactive interface like aptitude to really shine here. So the target audience should be day-to-day interactive use - and properly someone who is more experienced than the average joe as deciding between different solutions isn't exactly easy compared to either say yes or no to the only solution other tools find. In that vision, the biggest problem for aptitude to face currently are problems it has with multiarch. I implemented it in APT in a way i hoped it would make it possible to sell multiarch as singlearch to the frontends. This (surprisingly) works for a lot of cases, but from the folks from ubuntu i heard different stuff about aptitude performance in multiarch environment (we don't have it in debian yet, so i rely here on chit-chat - bear with me) so i guess certain codepaths depend on singlearch more than others do. I personally don't have the time to fix all these problems in all the frontends and in general i am very reluctant to touch stuff i don't use, but feel free to drop any question about how to fix <foobar> for multiarch you like to be answered to [email protected] and i will try my best. (public, so others can profit too, as i suspect the volume to rise after a dpkg upload with multiarch enabled…) So, good luck with forming a taskforce - i hope you will made it! Best regards David Kalnischkies _______________________________________________ Aptitude-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aptitude-devel

