> On 10. nov. 2014, at 14.08, Fred Baker (fred) <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Nov 10, 2014, at 1:20 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> While I agree that the ECN benefits draft does not motivate any mechanism
>> for ECN. I think the draft, should simply echo the BCP AQM Recommendation
>> on ECN deployment:
>> 
>> "Deployed AQM algorithms SHOULD support Explicit Congestion Notification
>> (ECN) as well as loss to signal congestion to endpoints." and refer to
>> that BCP.
> 
> Dumb question for you.
> 
> Where I was a little concerned, and raised a question from the mike, was the 
> statement that "AQM algorithms MAY describe their use with ECN”. My concern 
> is for interoperability.

I think that’s a mix-up: you spoke up for the ECN part of 
draft-ietf-aqm-eval-guidelines while Gorry’s comment was about 
draft-ietf-aqm-ecn-benefits - right?

Cheers,
Michael


> 
> My sense with any AQM algorithm is the it should take signals (marks or 
> drops) coming at a certain rate to manage a given TCP session or combination 
> of TCP sessions to maximize throughput while minimizing latency. There is 
> some question of the distribution of the signals; CUBIC will respond 
> differently to having three successive packets dropped than having three 
> packets dropped an RTT or two apart. I wonder whether what we really want is 
> some kind of draft that describes the pattern and rate we want to achieve, 
> including observations like Bob’s desire to have the mark threshold differ 
> from the drop threshold. What is of value in the algorithm descriptions is 
> how the algorithm should be parameterized to achieve that common goal, not 
> different goals.
> 
> Am I making sense?
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