On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 21:51:04 +0200 (MET DST),
Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I responded to a company in Denmark a few months ago and stated that I
> would charge them 100USD (or was it 50?) for every hour that I started to
> look into the problem they seemed to have with not allowing people to
> "unsubscribe" from their spam. I haven't received another mail from them
> since ;-) Not that I could have actually sent them one but it was
> interesting to find out that it worked - the company seems like it isn't a
> spam-company so they were probably afraid of bad PR if this would come out.

Any compamy that sends unsolicited advertising by email is a spam company,
by definition.  Spam is defined as unsolicited advertising sent via email.
Spammers don't care about their PR (Public Relations).  They already know
that spamming is very bad for PR.

>>> BTW, I heard that spammers also using postal mail in the US?
>>> Is this true?

>> Unsolicited bulk advertising is often sent through the US Postal Service.
>> This is known as "junk mail".

> I thought that was what McDonalds called it when they got their
> hamburgerpapers etc. back ;-) Please note that this has actually happened.

>> Junk mail is legal,
>> provided it does not consist of solicitations to buy pornography or to
>> conduct illegal activities.

> Here it's better - if you set a piece of paper (or a marker - whatever you
> want) on the mailbox (ie. "No ads, please!") the mailman will not put mass
> mail in the box.

I would want my mailman to put all my mass mail in my box.  There are a
few companies whose advertising I have even requested.

Also, if my mailman stopped putting what looks like junk mail in my box,
then I would miss out on receiving my rebate checks.  Many companies send
rebate checks in envelopes disguised as junk mail.  They do this in hopes
that the customer would toss the envelope in the trash before even opening
it.  I have received lots of rebate checks, but I have never received one
in an envelope plainly stating "your rebate check is enclosed".  The
rebate check always arrives in an envelope disguised as one containing
only ads.

Sometimes I receive a junk mail having a return address saying something
like "Office of the Legal Counsel", followed by the name of some
fictitious state agency located in Richmond, my state's capital city.
I don't know that the agency named in the return address is not really a
state government agency.  Of course I open the letter because the printing
on the envelope has led me to believe that it concerns some legal
proceeding or other official business involving me and my state's
government.  Much to my surprize I find that it is only an ad from a group
of lawyers saying that they will stand by to represent me or to answer any
legal questions for free provided I would buy their legal defence
insurance policy for some nominal monthly charge.  How do you like that
for *professional* ethics? : (

For some very sound advice on what should be done to resolve the political
controversy surrounding lawyers, read Shakespeare on the subject. : )

All the best,

Sam Heywood
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