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From:     Self </lange>
To:       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Re: Cyrillic characters
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:26:33

Hello, Geoff, 

now a few words on viewing cyrillic

>Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 23:11:13 +0000
>From: "Geoff Barnard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Cyrillic characters
>
>I have got the .APM for Arachne to allow the system to show Cyrillic
>characters (koi8-r) and that works fine for most things for reading
>e-mails from Russia, and viewing most Russian WWW pages (although I 
have
>seen some that clearly use a different character set.

I know this problem from Czech. In DOS and even on the web you get 
national characters in different codepages. I suppose, in your case it 
is koi8-r, Russian WINDOWS codepage cp1251 and ISO-8859-5. It is not 
very practical to change Arachne's entire fonts just because the 
actual webpage does not read properly. I think, it is easier 
to convert the current page to the right code: I added a button 
"Convert to" to the file SAVEAS.AH like this: 

<FORM ACTION="file://win2iso.dgi">
Filename: <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" ARACHNESAVE NAME="" SIZE=36>
<BUTTON TYPE=SUBMIT><IMG SRC="file://small2.ikn" HEIGHT=18 
WIDTH=32>&nbsp;Convert WIN->ISO</BUTTON>

it is almost the same as the "save as" function. But on the way it 
calls my favourite conversion utility. In my example the operation 
has the name win2iso.dgi and is defined in MIME.CFG

file/win2iso.dgi     |@transfer.exe $l $s

reads: convert the last HTML-page displayed into a file with 
the name from the input; then view this (converted) page. 

The conversion utility must of course know the input and the output 
codepage. In my example, I need conversion from cp1250 (WINDOWS 
Central European characters) into ISO-8859-2 (the standard for 
Central European characters), because I configured Arachne for the 
ISO fonts. 

This is certainly not the best solution. But I do not know 
it better. 

Before I write something on editing, please tell me: 

- Do you work only in Russian/English context? What languages 
(national characters) do you need under DOS and on the web? 

- Are you used to a Russian typewriter in daily work or occur Russian 
letters just once a year (we used to send just a Christmas and an 
Easter letter to the Moscow Partriarchate) ? 

- What Russian codepages do you use under DOS (CP866 or KOI-8 or ???) 
and on Webpages (cp1251 or ISO-8859-5)? 

Greetings from Prague
Christof Lange


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