I *do* have a working version of 1.66 and the results are as follows: Before loading Virtual Ave chat, I had 140 available memory; after 117 Load Arachne Chat, available memory 123 Back to Virt, available memory 117 Back to Arachne, available memory 123 After multiple switches back and forth, no increased "memory loss." BTW, I didn't bother to clear cache nor to turn images off. I wouldn't normally do that before going to chat, so why fudge on testing? In all fairness, I decided to run the test with 1.68. I checked memory before clicking on the first link, and discovered it was lower than I thought it should be -- although all I'd done was write the first part of this message. Just to see if maybe I'd not been paying attention, I used the ALT-E to shell, EXIT to return to Arachne. When I then checked memory, it had gone from 104 to 137 [1.66 holds at 140 when I'm reading mail in InBox ... so apparently 1.68 is using more memory somewhere]. I then selected reply, cancel, and memory was down to 107 when I returned to inbox, and as I'm writing this memory is showing at 105. So before even checking the "chat chewing," I've found that InSight likes to eat memory now -- at least replying via InSight does. Good grief, Charlie Brown! What's next??? Since I'm writing this message in bits and pieces as I go, I'm saving to outbox. So after the notations above, I resaved to outbox and checked memory. Good grief, indeed! It was right back at 137 where it belonged! Another instance of InBox processing behaving entirely different from OutBox when it comes to memory use?? Once again, I will prepare to do the "chat test" ... Results from test with 1.68 follow: In OutBox reading message AM 136 Load Virt AM 113 Load ArachChat AM 97 Back to Virt AM 76 Forward to ArachChat AM 65 Back to Virt AM 49[!!!] Back to OutBox AM 137 Writing this message AM 105 I didn't want to take time, but since memory handling has differed between OutBox & InBox in 1.68 already, I ran the test again only went via hotkey to InBox instead of OutBox at the end of the test ... In OutBox reading AM 136 Load Virt [from cache] 113 [R]eload Virt 91 Load ArachChat [from cache] 77 [R]eload ArachChat 65 Back to Virt 49[!!!] To InBox 49[!!!] back to OutBox 137 modifying this message 105 *-- It is clear that whatever broke in 1.67 on memory remains broken in 1.68 *-- It is also clear that the code which handles InBox is different from the code which handles OutBox, particularly when it comes to properly freeing up memory. Maybe now someone can see where they differ and at least get that part fixed, then figure out what part of 'chat' got broken between 1.66 & 1.67 ??? l.d. ==== l.d. On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 04:21:14 -0700, Gregory J. Feig wrote: > ....anybody who wants to try this can swiftly bring the Monster out > into the open: > 1. At MAIL screen, hit F8 (clear cache), then SHIFT-~ (turn images > off). > 2. Enter http://chat.arachne.cz/ then ENTER (to launch this URL). > After the page loads, ALT-M (to check your free memory). > 3. Enter http://arachne.virtualave.net/chat.pl?id= then ENTER. > After the page loads, ALT-M (to check your free memory, again). > 4. Then CTRL-LeftARROW (internally reload the chat.arachne.cz > page). > 5. Then CTRL-RightARROW (internally reload the arachne.virtualave > page). > 6. Keep switching back-and-forth between the two pages (remember > that these are already loaded on you machine, so all you are > doing is swapping internal pages) > 7. See how many times you can swap these pages...<g> > ....this works the same in 1.67, but 1.65 does NOT have the problem > (I don't know about 1.66 - I don't have a working install of this > version). > ........gregy > -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client -- Join B'FOR - B'mothers For Open Records <a href=" http://www.b-for.org "> B'FOR web site</A> [Associate members of triad also welcome; membership confidential.] Every member counts! We need numbers to produce valid statistics. ******* A proud member of <A HREF="http://www.phenomenalwomen.com/"> Phenomenal Women Of The Web</a> -- Arachne V1.68, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/