On Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:33:53 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Eisenberger)
wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 04:16:39 -0500,
> "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Of course I realize that it is the nntp client that actually does this, but
>> in the case of NetTamer and PC-PINE the nntp client works the same as the
>> email client as far as the appearances on your front-end interface are
>> concerned. I'm talking only about the "look and feel" here, not the
>> technical nitty-gritty. I regret my oversight in having neglected to say
>> this in my post to which you have responded.
> Sam,
> I regret that I allowed my personal disagreement with someone
> else to influence the tone of my response to you.
No problem, Howard. It was my fault for having neglecting to say that
I was speaking only about the look and feel of the front-end interface, and
you responded saying that I have some really serious misunderstandings
about protocols and transport agents. The context in which I was speaking
was not clear to you at first because I failed to define it.
>> I haven't tried using Yarn or any other dedicated newsreaders.
>> For that reason I can't compare them to PC-PINE or NetTamer.
> For that matter, Yarn, in particular, and some of the other DOS
> readers are both news and mail readers, so they definitely have
> the same "look and feel" for both mail and news.
>> NetTamer works fine as an offline newsreader and PC-PINE is good
>> for use as an online newsreader.
>> >> I too would like very much to see newsgroup access built into
>> >> Arachne's email client.
>> > That's fine, but I am suggesting that there is more to it than
>> > you and L.D. seem to think.
>> I said nothing to imply that it would be
>> easy or simple to incorporate newsgroup access into Arachne, but it sure
>> would be a nice thing to have as an additional feature. Just dreaming.
> Well, I imagine that the hypothetical Arachne newsreader would have
> the "look and feel" of Arachne. As I mentioned a couple of times, I
> now move individual Usenet messages that I have already downloaded
> into an Arachne folder and use the Arachne mailreader as a sort of
> offline reader, but I use it online to follow embedded links in the
> message. So I've got my own reason to use Arachne as a newsreader.
> All that's really missing is a way to followup with References:
> So far, beyond unspecified newsgroup access, no one has indicated
> what form it might take in Arachne. Another browser, Lynx386, like
> PC-Pine is an offline reader.
PC-PINE is designed as an online reader. In order to use PC-PINE as
an offline reader you have to save the messages you find online one
by one into a folder on your hard drive and then access the folder later
when you are offline. PC-PINE for DOS cannot be set up to start
automatically downloading all the new messages into a folder as soon as
it accesses the newsgroup. NetTamer will do that, but not PC-PINE.
> Unlike Lynx386, Arachne does POP
> e-mail, which is suited to an offline reader. And that's just the
> beginning.
> Anyway, that's the way I see it. It's nice to dream, but if we want
> to accomplish our dreams, I don't think we should set our sights too
> high, and we should look at all the options.
Yes, these are some very clear reflections.
Regards,
Sam Heywood
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