no big deal... all this talk about Carnivore got me paranoid!
Finally, after four tries, I *was* able to get cc confirmation that my e-mail was delivered to my Aunt... she probably got four copies of the message (: but at least I learned how to cc in Arachne v.1.66 for next time :) Arachne v.1.66 has a bug meaning either one can only cc one e-mail address OR if one is cc'ing to oneself, this e-mail address of oneself must appear First in the cc field of the message... The Only Thing We Have To Fear Is Fear Itself!!! :) -Franklin D. Roosevelt(sp) Andy Do Not Fear Carnivore, Carnivore Is Our Friend :) <just joking> :) On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, ANDY wrote: > > this is the first time I didn't receive an e-mail(silly, not important) > cc'd to myself using Arachne's InSight web based e-mailer... I feel bad, > the e-mail in question was personal to my Aunt, silly really, not that > important... but I am wondering has carnivore gotten in it's way?? > > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, anarkissed wrote: > > > "Borrowed" from a friend who shall remain nameless: > > > > Carnivore is installed at the ISP end, not on your box. > > The idea is to get it as close to you connection as poss. so they > > don't have to filter out other ip address. > > > > http://stopcarnivore.org/carnfreeisps.htm > > > > Carnivore-Free ISPs > > The following is the list of ISPs that have publicly declared that > > they will not allow the use of Carnivore on their networks: > > > > RMI.Net: This statement was quoted in a 7-12-00 story by ZDNet: "I > > would have to say we would fight such a court order," said Ehud > > Gavron, the chief technology officer of RMI.Net Inc., an ISP based in > > Denver with 110,000 subscribers. "We would not want the privacy of all > > users to be compromised on the basis of witch hunts for one user." > > (This statement has not been confirmed by StopCarnivore.org) > > > > Ace-Computers: From Owner Roger Alumbaugh: "If ever approached we > > would simply refuse to allow the FBI access and would shut down our > > mail servers before allowing such an invasion. We are not required by > > law to offer an email program and they can not force us to continue to > > offer any particular service. > > Bottom line... I would go to jail before putting our customers at risk > > with this invasion of privacy" > > > > WebWings.Net: From Owners J & M Mankowski: "Yes we are a small > > community ISP. Yet freedom begins at home. WebWings.Net will refuse > > the F.B.I.'s request or demand to run Carnivore on our systems." > > > > Earthlink: Earthlink (which was forced to install Carnivore back in > > 1999 after fighting it in court, and which then removed it after > > having Carnivore-related problems with their network) has issued the > > following statement: "We do not allow the installation of Carnivore on > > our network because it has the potential to compromise the privacy of > > our legitimate users and the performance of our network. We have an > > internal solution which allows us to comply with court orders without > > the presence of government personnel or equipment in our buildings. > > The government accepts this solution since they still receive the > > requested information about the criminal suspect, and we sleep well > > knowing that our customers are safe from unauthorized surveillance." > > (This statement was confirmed by StopCarnivore.org via telephone call > > with Earthlink's Director of Investigations) > > > > X-Mail.net: From an e-mail by their webmaster: "We run a free Web > > Based E-Mail and hosting service. Our servers are located in Canada, > > out of Carnivore's reach." > > Not an ISP per se, but I'll list them because they asked, and they > > seem proud to be Carnivore-Free (and rightly so). > > > > > > Of course the keyword here is "publicly declared".. > > > > > > > > -- > > For a country to be free it's citizens must have a way to defy unjust > > laws. The new electronic snooping devices are a step in the direction of > > fascism. Consequently I am appending the following Carnivore Confusion > > noise to all outgoing email: > > "Allah; America; Anthrax; arms; bomb; border; capitalist; communicate; > > customs; death; delivery; economic; imperialist; jihad; plane; PGP; > > rendevous; trucks; war; weapons; U.S.A.; > > end transmission > > > >
