On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:27:51 -0700, L.D. Best wrote:

> While you guyz are trying to get Arachne to save files like a good
> little piece of software, will you SERIOUSLY consider doing something
> else I've been asking for next to forever:

> ALLOW ARACHNE TO PASS BACK DOS ERROR MESSAGES!!!!

> I hit F2, I want to save a file somewhere other than \download.  I enter
> the full path -- I'm SURE I have it right.  Later I go to look, and the
> file isn't there!!  Why?  Because I made a typo, misremembered the
> directory name, whatever ... and the file isn't in cache any more so I
> have to go hunt for it all over again, download it all over again, etc.

> If Arachne had simply passed back the error message that DOS sent --
> "could not save" or whatever -- I wouldn't have to go back and start
> over from scratch.

> The failure to pass DOS error messages -- or recognize them and send
> an error message of its own -- makes Arachne so damn much like Dozerware
> that it's obscene.

> IMNSHO

Ahhh hem......

>From over 18 months ago.
(sorry, saveit.gif and saveit.txt are no longer on my site)

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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:27:55 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: something is bugging me

On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:02:50 +0000, Ron Clarke wrote:

> Hi Folks, L.D.,

> L.D. Best wrote:
>> .... and it has been bugging me for a loooooooooong time.
>> Many times when I d/l a file I want it to go directly to a specific
>> place and not into the default "download" directory.  So I hand enter
>> the path and hit SAVE.
>> Later I'll go looking for the file and can't find it anywhere!
>> Why?  Because Arachne doesn't have any error handling capability when
>> doing "DOS stuff" ...

> I also found out the hard way.

> Now, I ALWAYS download to the default directory
> (in my case c:\arachne\download) while on-line. And I don't try to move
> anything until I am safe and stable off-line. Then I address each file
> individually, save it to where I want it to go, CHECK THAT ITS THERE !!,
> and only then delete it from the default download directory.

> A little fail-safe routine would be one of those little enhancements
> that separate the good progs from the great progs.   :)

> I am sure it can be written into the Arachne:save, a dgi or something like
> that. Or a little .BAT routine ?  Couldn't it, Glenn ?

 Do you perhaps mean something like this???? <vbg>

Here's a fix for this problem.
(I love these "3 step fixes")<vbg>

STEP 1)
Look for these 2 lines in \arachne\system\saveas.ah

<FORM ACTION="arachne:save">
Filename: <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" ARACHNESAVE NAME="$COPY" SIZE=36>

Change them to read as follows.

<FORM ACTION="file://saveit.dgi">
Filename: <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" ARACHNESAVE NAME="" SIZE=36>

STEP 2)
Insert this line into mime.cfg

file/saveit.dgi |@call saveit.bat $l $s

STEP 3)
Place this .BAT in your arachne_main_directory

- --- saveit.bat ---
copy /b %1 %2
pause
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(screen-cap just before linking to the Save-Button")
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/saveit.gif

(result of attempting to save to a directory which does not exist)
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/saveit.txt

 Oh yes (before I forget to mention it) <g>

You can save step 3 if you change step 2 to:

STEP 2)
Insert this line into mime.cfg

file/saveit.dgi |@copy /b $l $s \n pause

(now it's all done by the DGI line in mime.cfg and no BAT file is needed)

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:15:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Klaus Hameyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Download/Print-As-Text

Hello Glenn -

I tried your suggestion (2 step version) of changing some lines in
\arachne\system\gui\saveas.ah
from: <FORM ACTION="arachne:save">
      Filename: <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" ARACHNESAVE NAME="$COPY" SIZE=36>
to:  <FORM ACTION="file://saveit.dgi">
      Filename: <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" ARACHNESAVE NAME="" SIZE=36>

It worked fine for the print-page-as-text option. But I find a
further annoyance in that regard: namely, ARACHNE gives no
indication that anything happened other than a slight blink in
the screen. I think ARACHNE should take you back to the page that
you were printing-as-text. BTW, I don't have a printer attached.
Would this affect anything? I just assumed that this option is
intended to produce a TXT file arhher than actually print to a
printer.

For downloading a file to somewhere other than the download
directory, it worked fine also, BUT not directly. Arachne produced
the "I don't know what to do with this file" screen but saved
after I entered the destination a second time. Also, the screen goes
black and a message saying "converting" or something like that is
given on what appears to be the DOS terminal. Then things go
back to the URL. After exiting, I find a remnant file called
XXX.

Glenn, your fix is fine and I appreciate the time you took to
work it out. But for the moment, I will stick to Ron's solution
and go strictly by the defaults and relocate things to where I
want them later.

For the sake of the neophytes (including me) however, I would
SUGGEST TO MICHAEL either:

1. to leave things as they are but arrange it so that the default
   paths CANNOT be changed (because allowing them to be changed
   implies that the commands will be executed that way, which
   they presently are NOT.
2. to incorporate something like Glenn's suggestion with the
   proviso however that:
   a) after printing to a text file, there is some indication
      that something happened (preferably being returned to the
      URL screen). I think this should be done in both cases.
   b) when a path is changed from the dowload directory to something
      else, download it WITHOUT having to enter the new path a second
      time. Continue to return to the URL after completion. Erase
      any remnant files.

Klaus Hameyer
Burlington, VT (USA)

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:41:24 +0000
From: "Ron Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Something is bugging me

Hi Folks, Glenn,

I wrote:
> I am sure it can be written into the Arachne:save, a dgi or something like
> that. Or a little .BAT routine ?  Couldn't it, Glenn ?

Glenn wrote:
>  Do you perhaps mean something like this???? <vbg>
> Here's a fix for this problem.
> (I love these "3 step fixes")<vbg>

> STEP 1)
> Look for these 2 lines in \arachne\system\saveas.ah
> <FORM ACTION="arachne:save">
> Filename: <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" ARACHNESAVE NAME="$COPY" SIZE=36>

> Change them to read as follows.
> <FORM ACTION="file://saveit.dgi">
> Filename: <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" ARACHNESAVE NAME="" SIZE=36>

> STEP 2)
> Insert this line into mime.cfg
> file/saveit.dgi |@call saveit.bat $l $s

> STEP 3)
> Place this .BAT in your arachne_main_directory
> - --- saveit.bat ---
> copy /b %1 %2
> pause

>  Oh yes (before I forget to mention it) <g>
> You can save step 3 if you change step 2 to:

> STEP 2)
> Insert this line into mime.cfg
> file/saveit.dgi |@copy /b $l $s \n pause
> (now it's all done by the DGI line in mime.cfg and no BAT file is needed)

   See !   I just knew Glenn would have an answer.     :)

   Thanks, Glenn.

er....

   Just one problem, tho'.       It doesn't work.  :(
   Neither way, and with or without a .BAT file.

   Trying to save from my download directory to another directory on the
same hard disk:   File not found - SAVEIT.DGI

   Trying to save from a different drive to c:\arachne\download:
                  Too many parameters - file not saved.

Regards,
         Ron

Ron Clarke  http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Versatile Internet Client

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:47:16 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: clarification of "fix"  (was Re: Something is bugging me)

On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:04:26 -0800, Ron Clarke wrote:

> Hi Folks, Glenn,

> I wrote:
>> I am sure it can be written into the Arachne:save, a dgi or something like
>> that. Or a little .BAT routine ?  Couldn't it, Glenn ?

> Glenn wrote:
>>  Do you perhaps mean something like this???? <vbg>
>> Here's a fix for this problem.
>> (I love these "3 step fixes")<vbg>

>> STEP 1)
>> Look for these 2 lines in \arachne\system\saveas.ah
>> <FORM ACTION="arachne:save">
>> Filename: <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" ARACHNESAVE NAME="$COPY" SIZE=36>

>> Change them to read as follows.
>> <FORM ACTION="file://saveit.dgi">
>> Filename: <INPUT TYPE="TEXT" ARACHNESAVE NAME="" SIZE=36>

>> STEP 2)
>> Insert this line into mime.cfg
>> file/saveit.dgi |@call saveit.bat $l $s

>> STEP 3)
>> Place this .BAT in your arachne_main_directory
>> - --- saveit.bat ---
>> copy /b %1 %2
>> pause

>>  Oh yes (before I forget to mention it) <g>
>> You can save step 3 if you change step 2 to:

>> STEP 2)
>> Insert this line into mime.cfg
>> file/saveit.dgi |@copy /b $l $s \n pause
>> (now it's all done by the DGI line in mime.cfg and no BAT file is needed)

> See !   I just knew Glenn would have an answer.     :)

> Thanks, Glenn.

> er....

> Just one problem, tho'.       It doesn't work.  :(
> Neither way, and with or without a .BAT file.

> Trying to save from my download directory to another directory on the
> same hard disk:   File not found - SAVEIT.DGI

> Trying to save from a different drive to c:\arachne\download:
>              Too many parameters - file not saved.

 Sorry. :(

I really should start using upper-case Ls whenever possible.

file/saveit.dgi |@copy /b $L $s \n pause
(this is an l not a 1------^-----)

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:03:09 -0500
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: clarification of "fix"  (was Re: Something is bugging me)

Glenn McCorkle wrote:
>
>  Sorry. :(
>
> I really should start using upper-case Ls whenever possible.
>
> file/saveit.dgi |@copy /b $L $s \n pause
> (this is an l not a 1------^-----)

There otta be a law against lower case on the commandline. <G>

- -  Clarence Verge
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:46:33 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: clarification of "fix" (was Re: Something is bugging me)

On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:57:05 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote:

> Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>>  Sorry. :(

>> I really should start using upper-case Ls whenever possible.

>> file/saveit.dgi |@copy /b $L $s \n pause
>> (this is an l not a 1------^-----)

> There otta be a law against lower case on the commandline. <G>

I am glad there isn't.
If there were... I would have already received a "life sentence" for
violation of that law. ;-)

Thankfully,
"l,I and 1" are the only 3 which cause this question to be asked.

What the L is THAT ?!?! <G>

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And THAT'S the name of THAT tune.<g>

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