On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 at 10:13 Mantas Mikulėnas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, > > I realize I'm late to the RFC and this has already been posted to news – > but the whole thing doesn't seem right, even though I'm not currently using > KDE so I don't have personal interest in this. > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 23:23 Tomaz Canabrava <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Plasma 6.4.0 will need manual intervention if you are on X11 >> >> On Plasma 6.4 the wayland session will be the only one installed when the >> users >> does not manually specify kwin-x11. >> >> With the recent split of kwin into kwin-wayland and kwin-x11, users >> running the old X11 session needs >> to manually install plasma-x11-session, or they will not be able to >> login. Currently pacman is not able to >> figure out your personal setup, and it wouldn't be ok to install >> plasma-x11-session and kwin-x11 for every >> one using Plasma. >> > > Personally I think it would be completely OK to install those packages for > everyone using Plasma. That's what Arch has been doing most of the time – > not just for KWin-before-the-split but for various other packages, favoring > installing everything instead of splitting up a package even if some parts > aren't necessary to some users. So even if this is an upstream split, the > "harm" of installing the x11 parts doesn't seem all that much. > > So I would have said do this for a transitional period, until users can > safely be assumed to have upgraded their systems (a few months maybe), then > fully split afterwards. > > And in any case, perhaps breaking login sessions and requiring manual > action (using instructions that the user might not be able to read, due to > being unable to log in) is *a lot less OK* than wasting a little bit of > disk space that (for those users) had already been wasted before... > this was tried before and bug reports were open because of unused packages on the kde side. so now we tried this approach.
