On 01/03/15 21:24, Eli Schwartz wrote:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

Linux and BSD user space is software based on other software. Yaourt
and some other software does need pacman. Pacman needs bash, curl and
other packages and those packages depend on other packages too.

This policy does only work, when there are agreements about backwards
compatibility.

makepkg provided the --asroot option and within a major release it
dropped backwards compatibility. Fortunately it is a minor issue that
--asroot is dropped, but the real issue is that it already might be a
fashion not to care about other software, not to care about work flows,
IOW to be careless, ignorant.


So what exactly is the issue here?

pacman has engaged in healthy thought about the respective pros/cons of
removing --asroot, and you acknowledge that that is all right... therefore
it necessitates mentioning that Just In Case on a completely unrelated note
everyone gets attacked by a vicious case of wanting to drop backwards
compatibility for the lulz, we should remember it is a Bad Thing to do so?

-- Eli Schwartz
I believe the issue is deprecation of a feature utilized by an AUR (non officially sanctioned) package (yaourt). It should be the responsibility of the AUR maintainer to engage in discussions regarding deprecation of official features; and it should be the AUR maintainer's responsibility to modify their packages accordingly.

With that in mind; how will building on live cd's as non root work? Will users need to trivially make a pacman user for building packages?

Regards,
Mark

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