On Sun, 07 Feb 2016, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:58:19AM +0100, Ivan wrote: > > > I realize that there are a lot more things to be discussed about this. > > And here is a can of worms. What are you going to do with logind and various > desktop integrations? What about systemd-tmpfiles snippets that do magic in > the background? > > Regarding former, before you say consolekit2, it's not an answer. Yes, systemd > may be getting in too many places, but the previous state of affairs was not > better (I think everyone would agree that ck is a broken concept). Also, don't > forget about wayland. I strongly suspect that it is not going to run without > logind.
While I don't think it's time to debate consolekit yet, I would have to say that it currently is an option. Gnome (being made systemd-dependent) can still be patched to work without systemd. Wayland is also proven to run without systemd. Though I am not sure what will happen with future development (see your last two sentences)... > Regarding latter, you'll have to roll out lots of install files in existing > packages, even those that have no relation to an init system. > > You see, by itself, systemd is a stupid and irrelevant piece of software. It > is > things around it that create real problems... Hypothetically, if Arch Linux was to adopt an alternative init, it's a process that does not happen overnight. Through time, solutions will surface. I'm not a magic lamp genie that has all the answers.
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