~~~ Rohan ~~~ wrote:

Hey, i really need it. Does someone have a pkgbuild for a resume enabled kernel ? i am real bad at pkgbuilds thats why :)


http://www.suspend2.net/ has excellent instructions. When I did this for my notebook I grabbed a vanilla kernel from kernel.org, slapped their patch on it and built it. (You can use the Arch .config, but that builds practically everything so takes far longer than necessary.) Read up on it first, their instructions are excellent. Also, make sure you have a sufficiently sized swap partition.

MAKE SURE YOU KEEP A KNOWN-GOOD KERNEL TO BOOT WITH IN CASE IT DOESN'T WORK. ;-)
(This goes for any kernel build, but doubly for something like this.)


The advice below about *never* mounting filesystems between OS's when one of them is suspended is very good. Suspending means that buffers may not be flushed, etc., so corruption is easy and damaging. Since you said it was your Dad booting into windows, I didn't think moving stuff between the OS's would be that much of a problem..

 -P


Rohan.

On 11/05/05, *iphitus* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Suspend doesnt play nice with a dual boot setup generally.

    Dont mount a partition within linux, that you are going to use within
    windows, it's quite common for hard disk writes to be delayed and such
    or for the system to cache certain info about filesystems.

    I learnt the hard way, i edited a document, in windows, suspended,
    loaded up linux, wasnt there ........
    i hadto shut down windows for it to be visible within linux, same
    happened vice versa.

    Apparently filesystem corruption can be a problem too if doing as i
    just mentioned. Fun.

    OTOH, you dont need initng to have a fast boot, i boot to my arch
    desktop in a minute flat. i recompiled my kernel with drivers as
    modules. moved the module loading from /etc/rc.sysinit to a script at
    /etc/rc.d/modules, and i have x's inittab line set to 'once' so that
    it and rc.multi start at the same time. I explicitly load usbhid
    beforehand so that X can have mouse right up, with out any problems.I
    have gdm autologging in, though theres probably a better way, using
    xdm or something.

    James Rayner < iphitus >

    On 5/11/05, Paul Bohme <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
    > ~~~ Rohan ~~~ wrote:
    >
    > > Actually, this is a desktop pc... So i need to restart that
    > > frequently. Also, i poweroff the computer when not needed. And
    my dad
    > > uses windows, so it a dual boot hell :)
    > >
    > > Hence the need for initng.
    >
    > Perhaps not - there's no reason that you can't use the suspend on a
    > desktop.  The cool part is that it keeps your apps where they
    were.  I
    > regularly work in hour-long stints on the train, then power the
    machine
    > down for the walk to the office.  I power it up several hours
    later and
    > my 6 gvim sessions are still waiting for me.  ;-)
    >
    > The suspend functionality dumps the current contents of memory
    to the
    > swap partition, then powers the machine down completely.  You
    can then
    > reboot to another OS, leave it off for a year or whatever you like.
    > When you kick it back into your resume-enabled kernel, it sees the
    > image, loads it back into memory and you pick up where you left
    off.
    >
    > Even with a different init, this would probably be quite a bit
    faster
    > (and from the sound of it a lot less work..)
    >
    > OTOH the only caveat I can think of is that there are some
    drivers that
    > don't deal well with the suspend, so definitely give it a look
    to see if
    > anything you're running currently has issues.
    >
    >  -P
    >
    > >
    > > Rohan.
    > >
    > > On 11/05/05, *Paul Bohme* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
    > >
    > >     ~~~ Rohan ~~~ wrote:
    > >
    > >     > And there are also some people like me who reboot
    atleast thrice a
    > >     > day. For them, the change is warranted.. Anyway, lets
    just wait and
    > >     > watch whether someone does come up with initng packages :)
    > >
    > >     Yow!  Have you considered swsusp2 (software suspend
    > >     http://www.suspend2.net/) <http://www.suspend2.net/%29>
    <http://www.suspend2.net/%29> if it's a
    > >     laptop?  I use this on my Sharp
    > >     Actius MM10 notebook - which doesn't have usable
    suspend/hibernate
    > >     under
    > >     Linux.  While it is a full power down/power up of the
    machine, it
    > >     returns to functionality much faster than a normal reboot
    (and I
    > >     keep my
    > >     application state, to boot!)  Even if you're rebooting
    that much
    > >     because
    > >     of dual (duel? ;-)) booting, it's still an effective way
    to speed
    > >     boots
    > >     as well as keeping your environment.
    > >
    > >     Then again, all of my other machines get rebooted a few
    times a
    > >     year (if
    > >     that) unless I get rambunctious with kernel tinkering. ;-)
    > >
    > >       -P
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