HI Koen,
No plans on python 3 support yet.  That doesn't mean we wouldn't be
thrilled if someone from the community took that on (hint hint...).  :)

As far as the unit testing stuff goes, I still don't think django
officially supports postgresql schemas.

Cheers,
Alexei


Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Van Daele, Koen <
koen.vanda...@rwo.vlaanderen.be> wrote:

> Hi Alexei,
>
>
>
> Just had a look at the pytest-django docs. They seem to take a very
> sensible approach. Seems like a good way to move forward.
>
>
>
> I remember trying to get any kind of unit test running with Arches 0.x and
> the main issue were some of the changes to make Django use postgresql
> schemes. No idea how that's changed in 2.0 (since it's now Django 1.6), so
> hopefully that's no longer an issue.
>
>
>
> Good choice on dropping 2.6. It's only ArcGIS that sticks with ouddated
> python versions ;-)
>
>
>
> Any plans for python 3 support?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Koen
>
>
>
> *Koen Van Daele*
>
> Applicatiebeheerder
>
> M +32 (0)499 94 93 68  |  T +32 (0)2 553 16 82
>
>
>
> *Van:* Alexei Peters [mailto:apet...@fargeo.com]
> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 18 maart 2014 19:27
> *Aan:* Van Daele, Koen
> *CC:* Tharindu Rusira; archesproject@googlegroups.com
>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Arches] Test suite in Arches
>
>
>
> Hi Koen,
>
> That's the one thing that I noticed about pytest-dango, is that you don't
> need to recreate the db for every test run.
>
> Also, I removed the ability to use python 2.6 in version Arches 2.0
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alexei
>
>
>
>
> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Van Daele, Koen <
> koen.vanda...@rwo.vlaanderen.be> wrote:
>
> What versions of python are you aiming at? Is Arches still trying to
> maintain compatibility with 2.6? And is python 3 compatibility wanted?
> Might influence your choice of testing framework.
>
>
>
> If you're trying to maintain compatibility with 2.6, look into the
> unittest2 library. I believe it brings python 2.6's unittest module up to
> the level of python 2.7's library.
>
>
>
> I've never used py.test but it looks rather nice. We normally use the
> standard unittest library, nose as a testrunner and coverage for the
> coverage report. I believe nose can also run py.test tests. And py.test
> seems to be able to run nose test suites. So, it all seems to be rather
> connected.
>
>
>
> When constructing your testsuite, it's a good idea to try and write as
> many unit tests as possible without needing a database. These can run a
> whole lot faster than unit tests requiring a database.
>
>
>
> Normally your testdatabase will be constructed and torn down for every
> single unit test. As soon as your database is anything non-trivial, this
> slows your testsuite down to a crawl. We currently solved this in one of
> our applications by only setting up and tearing down the database once per
> testsuite. This is using the Pyramid framework (not Django). What we did,
> was to setup the database at the beginning of the module, start a database
> transaction, run the unit test, rollback the transaction, start a new
> transaction, run the second test, rollback the transaction, etc... At the end
> of the module, the entire database is torn down. The next module does the
> same thing. The inspiration for this came from this blog post:
> http://sontek.net/blog/detail/writing-tests-for-pyramid-and-sqlalchemy.
> It's about Pyramid (and uses py.test), but I think the principal should be
> applicable to other frameworks as well. Django might have something for
> this as well.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Koen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Koen Van Daele*
>
> Applicatiebeheerder
>
> M +32 (0)499 94 93 68  |  T +32 (0)2 553 16 82
>
>
>
> *Van:* archesproject@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> archesproject@googlegroups.com] *Namens *Tharindu Rusira
> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 18 maart 2014 8:46
> *Aan:* Alexei Peters
> *CC:* archesproject@googlegroups.com
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Arches] Test suite in Arches
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Alexei Peters <apet...@fargeo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tharindu,
>
> It looks like PyUnit is in fact the unittest module in python (from their
> docs, *'Unless you're stuck in the year 2000, PyUnit is in your Python
> standard library as module unittest.'*)
>
>
> Yes, they are both the same.
>
>
>
>
> I also just saw this: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytest-django/
>
> One thing caught my eye when they describe the advantages of pytest which
> was "Database re-use: no need to re-create the test database for every test
> run."
>
> That may be something we might have to look out for.
>
>
> Interesting.
> I have not worked with py.test yet. The documentation is pretty convincing
> but I think we better have a look at these[1][2] comparisons
>
> as well. (Also note that these discussions are quite old and probably
> obsolete).
>
> Also, I found[3][4][5] to be very comprehensive articles on Python testing
> frameworks. So this might be a good starting point to decide where we will
> be going with our testing work-flow.
>
>
> [1]
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/191673/preferred-python-unit-testing-framework
> [2] http://bytes.com/topic/python/answers/43330-unittest-vs-py-test
>
>
> [3] http://pythontesting.net/framework/pytest/pytest-introduction/
> [4] http://halfcooked.com/presentations/pyconau2013/why_I_use_pytest.html
> [5] http://pydanny.com/pytest-no-boilerplate-testing.html
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Tharindu.
>
>
>
>
>
> Anyway, we have options.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alexei
>
>
>
>
> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Tharindu Rusira <
> tharindurus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Peters <apet...@fargeo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tharindu,
>
> Django uses the builtin unittest module.  It would be nice to use that if
> possible.
>
> Of course it's possible, Alexei. I think that would be a better approach
> to use this native unittest module.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Tharindu
>
>
>
>
>
> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alexei
>
>
>
>
> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Tharindu Rusira <
> tharindurus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Alexei,
> In my gsoc project I'm planning to write unit tests using PyUnit[1]. So I
> wanted to know whether PyUnit framework is fine or we have a project
> specific test mechanism.
>
> [1] http://pyunit.sourceforge.net
>
> Regards,
>
> On Mar 18, 2014 10:05 AM, "Alexei Peters" <apet...@fargeo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tharindu,
>
> At the moment we don't have any automated test routines.
> That's why we have project "Integrate a build/ci server and automated unit
> tests into the Arches dev environment".
> It would be lovely to have that!
> Cheers,
> Alexei
>
>
>
>
> Director of Web Development - Farallon Geographics, Inc. - 971.227.3173
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Tharindu Rusira <tharindurus...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I would like to know the current level of code coverage in Arches. I
> browsed through Arches source code in bitbucket[1] but I could not find any
> test cases.
>
> [1] https://bitbucket.org/arches/arches
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
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>
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> University of Moratuwa,
> Sri Lanka.
>
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