Hi All,

Following is how we are to use dep-sync to sync user store configurations
across clusters, with some inputs from Charitha, Prabath and Pradeep.

   - repository/conf/userstores/user-mgt.xml - configuration of super admin
   - repositoty/conf/userstores/tenants/1/user-mgt.xml - configuration for
   tenant with tenant-id: 1
   - repositoty/conf/userstores/tenants/2/user-mgt.xml - configuration for
   tenant with tenant-id: 2    likewise


   1. This is similar to the structure used in deploying artifacts at
   repository/tenants/1/ for tenants, as currently existing.
   2. So we already have two folders synced with dep-sync in a product. One
   at repositoy/deployment/server/ and one at repository/tenants/.
   3. We are to add one more folder to be synced with dep-sync at
   repository/conf/userstores/

Correct me, if I have got anything wrong. Glad to know any concerns or
thoughts.

Thanks,

Pushpalanka Jayawardhana

Software Engineer

WSO2 Lanka (pvt) Ltd
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On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Prabath Siriwardena <prab...@wso2.com>wrote:

> I guess dep sync based approach will solve these...
>
> Thanks & regards,
> -Prabath
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Srinath Perera <srin...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Azeez and myself was chatting, and following are some of the conflicting
>> requirements.
>>
>> 1. like to edit configs from file system, and via UI avoiding two copies
>> if possible (have to avoid case where we edit file, then we edit via UI
>> where we lost the file updates).
>> 2. Need a way to sync configs across the cluster
>> 3. Make the sync model clear and consistent for both configs and
>> artifacts (currently we use dep-sync only with artifacts)
>> 4. Like to sync only one folder in the product with dep-sync
>> 5. We should not do product folder structure before major release (C5?)
>>
>> We need to find the best solution out of that.
>>
>
>> --Srinath
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Senaka Fernando <sen...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Srinath,
>>>
>>> IMHO, relying on a dep-sync-based model sounds appropriate here. We can
>>> have several strategies for dep-sync (i.e. registry, svn, manual etc), but
>>> the server will be driven by what's on the filesystem. IMHO, that's very
>>> straightforward.
>>>
>>> And, I think we need to first of all figure out what and what's going to
>>> be sync'ed and what's not. When it comes to some configuration files it
>>> might make sense to sync portions and keep some static. In that case, do we
>>> need to split those files in two? Also, we need to focus on the "things
>>> that change across environments and things that don't" for the sever
>>> configuration as in the "CAR-based Governance Story" for ESB configurations.
>>>
>>> Also, the dep-sync's notification model should work like the
>>> hierarchical cache invalidation model that Azeez proposed, making sure that
>>> things will scale.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Senaka.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama <
>>> jeewan...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Srinath,
>>>>
>>>> If the node which detects the change in its config file redeploys the
>>>> config in every other node explicitly, we can ensure that every node sees
>>>> the change since there will always be one node which is responsible in
>>>> informing the others. I guess thats what depsync does IINM.
>>>>
>>>> If the config is stored in a central place, every node will have to
>>>> pull the change from that place. Here if one node fails to redeploy the
>>>> change, other nodes will be unaware about it so that the system will be
>>>> unstable.  IMHO we should prefer the former.
>>>>
>>>> Jeewantha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Srinath Perera <srin...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> We just finished a review on UI for user stores and figured we are
>>>>> doing this in several ways. Pradeep, Prabath, and myself had a chat, and
>>>>> following are our thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have different types of configurations with carbon server
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Some are only apply for one node (e.g. carbon.xml, registry.xml ..)
>>>>> 2) Some might be useful across a cluster, but we ask users to copy it
>>>>> to all the nodes (e.g. data sources, xacml policies, keystores ?? )
>>>>> 3) It is proposed that we will automatically replicate user-store
>>>>> configurations using deployment synchronizer when it is added to one node.
>>>>>
>>>>> To share the same configurations across all nodes in the cluster, we
>>>>> have several options.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) We can have a config files, and use deployment sync to sync them
>>>>> across the cluster (Then, I think we need to have a cluster folder in conf
>>>>> or make clear what configurations are replicated).
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) We have a config file, but once read, we store them in a DB or in
>>>>> registry, since all nodes share same DB/ registry there is no need to
>>>>> replication (we can send a cluster message saying there is a update). Risk
>>>>> of this is after bring edited by UI and directly via the file, two sources
>>>>> might go out of sync and some updates can be lost when next update 
>>>>> happend.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Data sources can be added via UI (goes to registry) or via file
>>>>> system (not replicated), which is a mix.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we need to stick to one model out of #1 and #2. We thought dep
>>>>> sync model is the best as it is clear. But then we have to tell which part
>>>>> of the configs get replicated.
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>> --Srinath
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ============================
>>>>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>>>>>   Senior Software Architect, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>   Visiting Faculty, University of Moratuwa
>>>>>   Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>   Research Scientist, Lanka Software Foundation
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ============================
>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>>   Director, Research, WSO2 Inc.
>>
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