Hi All,
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Amila Suriarachchi <am...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Pushpalanka Jayawardhana
> <la...@wso2.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks all for the ideas.
>> Will be moving forward with option 2.
>>
>> repository/conf/userstores/user-mgt.xml
>> repositoty/conf/tenants/1/userstores/user-mgt.xml - configuration for
>> tenant with tenant-id: 1
>> repositoty/conf/tenants/2/userstores/user-mgt.xml - configuration for
>> tenant with tenant-id: 2
>>
>
> Technically speaking this is not correct. User-mgt.xml is used to
> configure UserRealm not only the userstore. So it should be usermanager.
>
> But in this case what we want to dep-synch only the userstores. so my
> suggestion is to put them under userstores folder with the store name.
>
> eg. repository/deployment/server/userstores/userstore1.xml
> repository/deployment/server/userstores/userstore2.xml.
>
> For an example if we change one userstore there is not reason to dep-sychn
> all user-mgt.xml and re initialise all user stores.
>
Azeez,Amila,me had a chat on the $subject. We have to follow the above
approach it seems.
Here the additional user-store configs are runtime artifacts and can be
treated in the same way we do other runtime artifacts. User-mgt.xml is a
static config file and it needs not to be dep-synched.
@Prabath and Pushpalanka;
Can we achieve the functionality using above method...
On technical front, if we try to listen to more than one directory, things
get bit complicated. Specially if you want to do dep-sync for those
directories. Normally we maintain a one dep-sync thread per tenant. If we
listen/dep-sync more than one directory - > two dep-sync thread per tenant.
>
> thanks,
> Amila.
>
>>
>> So a product will have 2 locations, inside repository/conf to be synced
>> with dep-sync as,
>>
>> - repositoty/conf/userstores ('userstores' just to avoid syncing all
>> content in conf directory) and
>> - repository/conf/tenants
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Pushpalanka Jayawardhana
>>
>> Software Engineer
>>
>> WSO2 Lanka (pvt) Ltd
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>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Dhanuka Ranasinghe <dhan...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am not much aware about carbon architecture, but have few thoughts to
>>> achieve above requirements.
>>>
>>> 1. Having a high available singleton (HA) service (through MBeans) then
>>> make sure it is active only in master node.
>>> 2. When the master node down one of other member in cluster become a
>>> master node and it's HA service will be activated.
>>> 3. All the configurations done and read through that HA service, by
>>> doing this whether it's UI or local file system change it will be synch
>>> with every time with every member.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dhanuka
>>>
>>> *Dhanuka Ranasinghe*
>>>
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>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Srinath Perera <srin...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Azeez and myself was chatting, and following are some of the
>>>> conflicting requirements.
>>>>
>>>> 1. like to edit configs from file system, and via UI avoiding two
>>>> copies if possible (have to avoid case where we edit file, then we edit via
>>>> UI where we lost the file updates).
>>>> 2. Need a way to sync configs across the cluster
>>>> 3. Make the sync model clear and consistent for both configs and
>>>> artifacts (currently we use dep-sync only with artifacts)
>>>> 4. Like to sync only one folder in the product with dep-sync
>>>>
>>> ^This will not be achieved, with the option.
>>
>>> 5. We should not do product folder structure before major release (C5?)
>>>>
>>>> We need to find the best solution out of that.
>>>>
>>>> --Srinath
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Senaka Fernando <sen...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Srinath,
>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO, relying on a dep-sync-based model sounds appropriate here. We
>>>>> can have several strategies for dep-sync (i.e. registry, svn, manual etc),
>>>>> but the server will be driven by what's on the filesystem. IMHO, that's
>>>>> very straightforward.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, I think we need to first of all figure out what and what's going
>>>>> to be sync'ed and what's not. When it comes to some configuration files it
>>>>> might make sense to sync portions and keep some static. In that case, do
>>>>> we
>>>>> need to split those files in two? Also, we need to focus on the "things
>>>>> that change across environments and things that don't" for the sever
>>>>> configuration as in the "CAR-based Governance Story" for ESB
>>>>> configurations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, the dep-sync's notification model should work like the
>>>>> hierarchical cache invalidation model that Azeez proposed, making sure
>>>>> that
>>>>> things will scale.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Senaka.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama <
>>>>> jeewan...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Srinath,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the node which detects the change in its config file redeploys the
>>>>>> config in every other node explicitly, we can ensure that every node sees
>>>>>> the change since there will always be one node which is responsible in
>>>>>> informing the others. I guess thats what depsync does IINM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the config is stored in a central place, every node will have to
>>>>>> pull the change from that place. Here if one node fails to redeploy the
>>>>>> change, other nodes will be unaware about it so that the system will be
>>>>>> unstable. IMHO we should prefer the former.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeewantha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Srinath Perera <srin...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We just finished a review on UI for user stores and figured we are
>>>>>>> doing this in several ways. Pradeep, Prabath, and myself had a chat, and
>>>>>>> following are our thoughts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have different types of configurations with carbon server
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Some are only apply for one node (e.g. carbon.xml, registry.xml
>>>>>>> ..)
>>>>>>> 2) Some might be useful across a cluster, but we ask users to copy
>>>>>>> it to all the nodes (e.g. data sources, xacml policies, keystores ?? )
>>>>>>> 3) It is proposed that we will automatically replicate user-store
>>>>>>> configurations using deployment synchronizer when it is added to one
>>>>>>> node.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To share the same configurations across all nodes in the cluster, we
>>>>>>> have several options.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) We can have a config files, and use deployment sync to sync them
>>>>>>> across the cluster (Then, I think we need to have a cluster folder in
>>>>>>> conf
>>>>>>> or make clear what configurations are replicated).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) We have a config file, but once read, we store them in a DB or in
>>>>>>> registry, since all nodes share same DB/ registry there is no need to
>>>>>>> replication (we can send a cluster message saying there is a update).
>>>>>>> Risk
>>>>>>> of this is after bring edited by UI and directly via the file, two
>>>>>>> sources
>>>>>>> might go out of sync and some updates can be lost when next update
>>>>>>> happend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) Data sources can be added via UI (goes to registry) or via file
>>>>>>> system (not replicated), which is a mix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we need to stick to one model out of #1 and #2. We thought
>>>>>>> dep sync model is the best as it is clear. But then we have to tell
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> part of the configs get replicated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Srinath
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ============================
>>>>>>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>> Visiting Faculty, University of Moratuwa
>>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>> Research Scientist, Lanka Software Foundation
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>>>>>> Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/
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>>>>
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>>>> Director, Research, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>
>>>> Visiting Faculty, University of Moratuwa
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