Hi Sidath,

However since inside the implementation we are calling this service
periodically,  shouldn't this time value be configurable? Depending on the
cluster environment we should be able to tune this value.

Thanks

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Sidath Weerasinghe <sid...@wso2.com> wrote:

> Hi Malaka,
>
> Im planing to handle this seamlessly.
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Malaka Silva <mal...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sidath,
>>
>> Does consumers and/or producers needs to additionally call ​this services
>> periodically to do this or will it be handled seamlessly?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Sidath Weerasinghe <sid...@wso2.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Prabath,
>>>
>>> When client establish a connection with a one of the broker node then
>>> client calls this service and get the live IP address of broker nodes in
>>> cluster. For that we need to know one of the broker IP address. Then
>>> periodically calling this service and  update live IP address
>>> automatically. For that there is no configurations.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Prabath Ariyarathna <prabat...@wso2.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sidath.
>>>>
>>>> *Periodically calling this service we can get the dynamically adding MB
>>>> node IP addresses and can remove disconnected IP addresses from the list.
>>>> So it will always shuffle the IPs and provide it for the client.*
>>>>
>>>> Can you little bit elaborate this statement.
>>>>  - What time your going to calling this service?
>>>>  - Is this based on the configuration?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Indika Sampath <indi...@wso2.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think option 1 would work because you have to use andes client as a
>>>>> dependency to initiate individual connections with message broker. Also,
>>>>> OSGi component should wrap message publishing service and provide it to 
>>>>> the
>>>>> caller. Inside the OSGi component, you can have logic to load balance
>>>>> messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Sidath Weerasinghe <sid...@wso2.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message Broker provides means to horizontally scale between nodes.
>>>>>> The client which communicates with the broker is notified on the
>>>>>> availability of the broker nodes in the cluster via JMS connection URL,
>>>>>> which allows defining of a failover string (the list of IPs of the broker
>>>>>> nodes separated by comma). Also, When integrating with other products 
>>>>>> (eg-
>>>>>> ESB, DAS); we specify the list of nodes in JNDI.properties  file in the
>>>>>> following manner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> connectionfactory.QueueConnectionFactory =
>>>>>> amqp://admin:admin@clientID/carbon failover='roundrobin'&cyclecou
>>>>>> nt='2'&brokerlist='tcp://IP1:5672 retries='5'&connectdelay='50';
>>>>>> tcp://IP2:5672?retries='5'&connectdelay='50';tcp://IP3:5672?
>>>>>> retries='5'&connectdelay='50''
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Configurations to the JNDI.properties
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The above approach would require the user to manually list out IPs of
>>>>>> the broker nodes to the client connection string or the application
>>>>>> context, which in fact limits the user experience and achieving the
>>>>>> scalability goals in the following way,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    The user/developers having to manually list out the IPs in the
>>>>>>    connection URL could be prone to error.
>>>>>>    2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    The change of IPs of the broker nodes would require reconfiguring
>>>>>>    and restart the client applications connected to it.
>>>>>>    3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    The approach would also be a blocker for auto scaling between
>>>>>>    broker nodes. (Since addition of IPs needs to be manually reflected 
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>    client application.The manual process would only address failover 
>>>>>> between
>>>>>>    broker nodes. This limits the client applications to load balance 
>>>>>> between
>>>>>>    the broker nodes)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How existing system works
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Proposed solution
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Specify an admin service inside the MB. where, the broker clients
>>>>>>    could query the service to get the list of IPs in the broker cluster.
>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Via calling an admin service which is implemented inside the MB;
>>>>>>    can discover available MB nodes in the cluster.
>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Periodically calling this service we can get the dynamically
>>>>>>    adding MB node IP addresses and can remove disconnected IP addresses 
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>    the list. So it will always shuffle the IPs and provide it for the 
>>>>>> client.
>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    According to the live MB node IP address, I will create the
>>>>>>    connections and use this connection as round robin fashion or use 
>>>>>> disruptor
>>>>>>    for load balancing purpose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: pic 2]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are several ideas for doing this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Build separate OSGI component
>>>>>> 2. Modify the Andes client according to the above scenario.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thank You,
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sidath Weerasinghe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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