On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Hasitha Hiranya <hasit...@wso2.com> wrote:
> Hi Asanka, > > +1. Seems we need to consider all clients w:r:t a queue. > In previous model also we had a property to count number of times a > message was delivered and a delivery rule to evaluate but it was > channel-wise (per subscriber). > > So if a queue or a shared durable topic subscriber has more than one > subscriber, we should consider deliveries to all consumers of that > queue/internal queue of durable topic subscriber. Let us go with that > approach. > > Thanks > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Asanka Abeyweera <asank...@wso2.com> > wrote: > >> In the previous MB versions, we were counting the redelivery count >> independently for each consumer. But according to the spec, this is counted >> independently of the delivered consumer. >> >> The server SHOULD track the number of times a message has been delivered >>> to *clients* and when a message is redelivered a certain number of >>> times e.g. 5 times without being acknowledged, the server SHOULD >>> consider the message to be unprocessable (possibly causing client >>> applications to abort), and move the message to a dead letter queue. >>> >> >> Therefore we are planning to keep the redelivery count independent of the >> consumer and publish the message to DLX when the count exceeds the >> configured limit. >> > +1, it makes more sense to keep the redelivery count independent from the consumer. There can be situations where client application does not cache the consumer for each retry, even this scenario will work with the new design. > >> >> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Asanka Abeyweera <asank...@wso2.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> For message brokers, we need to provide a location to dump undeliverable >>> messages. Messages can be undeliverable due to following reasons. >>> >>> 1. Message redelivery count exceeds a configured limit. >>> 2. The queue length limit is exceeded. >>> >>> In previous versions of MB, we were using a dedicated queue (DLC) to >>> persist those undeliverable messages. This was adding some complexity in >>> handling permission and different policies with DLC. In MB4 we are planning >>> to implement a Dead Letter Exchange (DLX) instead. >>> In the first iteration of the implementation, we planning to have an >>> inbuilt DLX which is used to publish undeliverable messages. Type of the >>> DLX is of type direct. We will also create a default dead letter queue and >>> have a binding added to the DLX for the default dead letter queue. This >>> will be the default path of any undeliverable message. >>> >>> In a later iteration, we can add the capability to define custom queues >>> and exchanges for routing undeliverable messages. This will make it easy ti >>> define different policies for different dead letter scenarios. >>> >> +1, If we can restrict putting messages directly into queues and use exchanges always to publish messages(into queues), it will make the broker configurations more flexiable and architechture will be clear to understand. With that design, external parties can only publish messages into exchanges, and consume only from queues. Exchanges are the only ones who is capable of routing messages into queues. I think it will be better to maintain such a policy all the time. > WDYT? >>> -- >>> Asanka Abeyweera >>> Associate Technical Lead >>> WSO2 Inc. >>> >>> Phone: +94 712228648 <+94%2071%20222%208648> >>> Blog: a5anka.github.io >>> >>> <https://wso2.com/signature> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Asanka Abeyweera >> Associate Technical Lead >> WSO2 Inc. >> >> Phone: +94 712228648 <+94%2071%20222%208648> >> Blog: a5anka.github.io >> >> <https://wso2.com/signature> >> > > > > -- > *Hasitha Abeykoon* > Associate Technical Lead; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com > *cell:* *+94 719363063* > *blog: **abeykoon.blogspot.com* <http://abeykoon.blogspot.com> > > > _______________________________________________ > Architecture mailing list > Architecture@wso2.org > https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture > > -- *Eranda Rajapakshe* Software Engineer WSO2 Inc. Mobile : +94784822608
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