Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] PUI Ordering and Sorting Issue

Andrew Morrison Wed, 11 May 2022 02:15:04 -0700

Sorry, make that:

[^\p{L}\d\s]


Otherwise it'll strip out digits.

Andrew.


On 11/05/2022 09:53, Andrew Morrison wrote:

I'd forgotten about clean_for_sort. I've overridden it myself, in aplug-in. The simplest way is:


 1. In plugins/local, create a subfolder called "indexer"
 2. Create a file in that subfolder called "indexer_common_override.rb"
 3. In the file, declare "class IndexerCommon"
 4. Copy the def for clean_for_sort into that, and adjust it to meet
    your requirements.
 5. Restart and re-index.

Something like:

[^\p{L}\s]

Would be a less anglocentric substitute for:

[^\w\s]

If that works, you probably won't have any empty title_sort values,but in general you can control the sorting of records without valuesin schema.xml with the sortMissingLast attribute, see:


https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_8/field-type-definitions-and-properties.html

Andrew.


On 11/05/2022 08:37, 松山 ひとみ wrote:


Hello, again.

We’ve tried as Andrew kindly suggested.

However, it didn’t work as well as expected…

We think using “clean_for_sort; IndexerCommon” may interfere when“title” is set to “title_sort”.

“clean_for_sort” looks eliminating anything except alphabets andnumbers when sorting.

It would affect not only Japanese character but also any non-alphabetcharacters, such as Hangul or Cyrillic, we suppose.


We also wonder what order is applied when “title_sort” is empty.



Thanks,

Hitomi

Hitomi Matsuyama, Audiovisual Archivist

Nakanoshima Museum of Art, Osaka

4-3-1 Nakanoshima, Kita-ku

Osaka 530-0005 JAPAN

tel. +81 (0)6 64 79 05 58

email. matsuyam...@nakka-art.jp <mailto:matsuyam...@nakka-art.jp>

*From:*archivesspace_users_group-boun...@lyralists.lyrasis.org<archivesspace_users_group-boun...@lyralists.lyrasis.org> *On BehalfOf *Andrew Morrison

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*Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] PUI Ordering and Sorting Issue

I forgot to mention that you probably have to re-index after changingschema.xml and reloading the core.


Andrew.

On 28/04/2022 10:51, 松山 ひとみwrote:

    Thanks again Andrew!

    We’ll try applying what you gave to our current AS.

    Hitomi

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    <archivesspace_users_group-boun...@lyralists.lyrasis.org>
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    *On Behalf Of *Andrew Morrison
    *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2022 6:09 PM
    *To:* archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org
    *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] PUI Ordering and
    Sorting Issue

    If you're using the schema.xml that came with ArchivesSpace 3.0.1
    in your external Solr 8.11, then it will still define the
    "sort_icu" fieldType as an instance of the solr.TextField class.
    If you look below that, there is a commented-out alternative
    fieldType definition which is an instance of
    solr.ICUCollationField. ArchivesSpace 3.2.0 has changed to that
    (because it no longer has to support the previously-built-in Solr
    4.10) but you don't need to upgrade to it, you can just edit your
    schema.xml, then reload the Solr core. See the link in my
    previous email for help on how to set that up to be optimized for
    Japanese characters.

    Andrew.

    On 28/04/2022 09:44, 松山 ひとみ wrote:

        Thank you Andrew!

        Our IT says we’ve already been using an external Solr 8.11
        with ArchivesSpace 3.0.1, not the one built-in.

        We’re thinking of upgrading our AS to 3.2.0. Do you think we
        will get a better result?

        Hitomi

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        <archivesspace_users_group-boun...@lyralists.lyrasis.org>
        <mailto:archivesspace_users_group-boun...@lyralists.lyrasis.org>
        *On Behalf Of *Andrew Morrison
        *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2022 4:47 PM
        *To:* archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org
        *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] PUI Ordering and
        Sorting Issue

        Are you using the built-in Solr search engine that comes with
        ArchivesSpace 3.0.1? If so, your sorting problems could be
        because it uses a very old version, because newer ones aren't
        compatible with the method of embedding it in a bigger
        application. But there is the option to configure
        ArchivesSpace to use an external Solr service:

        https://archivesspace.github.io/tech-docs/provisioning/solr.html

        That allows you to run a more up-to-date version, which would
        enable use of the solr.ICUCollationField class for sort
        fields. That can be adjusted to sort different languages
        according to their own sorting rules, as described here:

        
https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/language-analysis.html#unicode-collation

        ArchivesSpace 3.2.0 removes the built-in Solr, so running an
        external Solr service will be necessary if you upgrade in the
        future.

        As for adding the option to sort on identifiers, I don't
        think there is a configuration option or simple interface for
        adding them. But it would probably be possible to develop a
        plug-in to override certain Ruby methods in the core code to
        do it.

        Andrew.

        On 27/04/2022 11:04, 松山 ひとみwrote:

            Hello all,

            We’ve been stuck in the “ordering and sorting” issue in
            [~/repositories/resources]. Our AS is version 3.0.1.

            Presumably, because we use Japanese Character, our
            resource list cannot be displayed in a right,
            alphabetical order when sorted by Title.

            Could we add Identifier to the category of sorting;
            Relevance/Title(Asc/Desc)/Year(Asc/Desc), as alternative?

            We’d very much appreciate you helping solve our issue!

            All the best,

            Hitomi Matsuyama, Audiovisual Archivist

            Nakanoshima Museum of Art, Osaka

            4-3-1 Nakanoshima, Kita-ku

            Osaka 530-0005 JAPAN

            tel. +81 (0)6 64 79 05 58

            email. matsuyam...@nakka-art.jp
            <mailto:matsuyam...@nakka-art.jp>





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