Hello,

In our case, the problem with the size of the e-mails are mostly on our 
side. When I send too many pdf  I have to delete the sent messages or else 
I get an error message that my database is full. The IT depart. says that 
we have a very large mailbox already. 
This is annoying ; when a library contact us a month later to say they 
never received the article, we have to re-process the request again. With 
Ariel I can let the sent messages in it for months and just click on 
"release" to let them go again.

I also like the feature of being able to send either to an Ariel 
workstation or e-mail pdf to regular e-mail addresses in the same 
software. 

But I must admit that Ariel would need a little rejuvenation cure and that 
from time to time (about 3 times a year), we have strange problems wich 
sometimes resolve by themselves and sometime not!
We use Ariel 4.1 and Window XP Professional.

Louise Aubut
Technicienne en documentation
Bibliothèque de gériatrie et de gérontologie
Institut universitaire de gériatrie de Montréal
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Response to the first paragraph...Ariel includes email so how can they be 
okay with Ariel email and not regular email??? I'll leave it at that, 
since anything else I add would be mean-spirited about not well thought 
out rules.

Second paragraph...most emails now have reasonable limits and if you are 
accepting emails, you should know how to (or have an IT person) set your 
filters to allow for most email addresses... i.e. .edu   .org  .gov, etc. 
I run across a gmail address sometimes, but I've never seen AOL, yahoo, 
msn, etc. in OCLC or Docline.
I have maybe one problem every few months with email, but once they put 
our email address in to be accepted by their filters if doesn't happen 
again.
Now I can understand if you are doing color copies (like art journals) and 
the files are really large, but we don't have journals like that.

This is a fun discussion, I've been wondering about the alternatives 
others are using.

Thank you,
Terry
IAF - ILL
Governors Sate Univ. Library

-----Original Message-----
From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu 
[mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Kathy Tower
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:35 AM
To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System
Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?

For us, the biggest problem with using email to deliver articles is that 
so many of our journal holdings are now electronic and our license 
agreements do not allow email as a delivery method.  They are OK with 
Ariel or Odyssey however.

Another occasional problem with sending articles as email attachments are 
the size limits on some email accounts and that sometimes attachments are 
looked at as a sign of spam so the emails are filtered out.

Kathy

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Kathy Tower
Document Delivery/Interlibrary Loan
Arizona Health Sciences Library
University of Arizona
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-----Original Message-----
From: arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu 
[mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Rickhoff, 
Terry
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:22 AM
To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System
Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?

Hi all,

I'm just curious, I've looked at Odyssey and Illiad and was wondering if 
someone could tell me why one or both of them are better than simply 
scanning and emailing articles.

Thank you,
Terry
IAF - ILL
Governors Sate Univ. Library



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[mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Document 
Delivery
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:41 AM
To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System'
Subject: [ARIE-L] RE: Ariel alternative?

Odyssey stand alone is free and works well for us,


Edward Helmrich
Iona College
Ryan Library
Interlibrary Loan Office
715 North Ave.
New Rochelle, NY 10801
VXI, NYULUZ
914-633-2352
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[mailto:arie-l-boun...@mailman2.u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Estabrook, 
Alexia
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:43 AM
To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System
Subject: [ARIE-L] Ariel alternative?

I have been having issues with Ariel for a while, the lasted being that 
the send to function is not working.  After months of working with IT we 
just cannot figure out what is wrong...  That and the fact that Ariel has 
not been updated in a very long time has lead me to consider alternatives.

What other Ariel-type products are people using and why?

We currently recieve 95% of our requests via Docline and the other 5% via 
OCLC.  I need to do more research but was initially thinking of pairing 
Odyssey and Illiad.  Am I headed in the right direction or am I way off 
base?

Any and all suggestions are appreciated.

Alexia D. Estabrook-Isely, MSLS
Consultant, Medical Library

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