If this ever happen, that would surely indicate a real problem ... I guess that would still fit the rules though. FWIW, a release can not be veoted, which means even in a (non podling) PMC, if you have 3 +1 votes for a release with 10 -1 votes, the release can still go out if the release manager decides so. But as i said, this would indicate a real issue in the community imho.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 17:13, Alasdair Nottingham <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > You are right, I was getting a bit lazy at that point. > > What I was trying to get at was that if I read the letter of the > guide, rather than what I think the intent is, then if 3 IPMC members > vote +1 then a committer or release goes out, even if a majority of > PPMC members votes -1. I was trying to clarify that in addition to 3 > IPMC member votes you also need agreement from a majority of the PPMC > member votes. > > Alasdair > > 2009/10/23 Davanum Srinivas <[email protected]>: >> Alasdair, >> >> 3 IPMC votes for a release is non-negotiable legally. Please raise it in >> gene...@incubator if you still wish to pursue since this is a common policy >> to all incubator projects. >> >> thanks, >> dims >> >> On 10/23/2009 10:10 AM, Alasdair Nottingham wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Thanks for the information. I have been trying to get my head around >>> all this. Based on the guidelines, what has been said here and an >>> attempt to read between the lines I think the idea is that things >>> operate like this: >>> >>> Voting is important both in podlings and in top level projects. When >>> making decisions about how the podling should operate that do not have >>> legal implications any vote by any member of the PPMC is considered >>> binding in making decisions. This allows the PPMC to learn the process >>> of managing the podling. While this is not explicitly covered in the >>> guides it seems logical to me, and consistent with the goal of the >>> PPMC learning how to run a project. >>> >>> When it comes to voting in a new committer I think that while the IPMC >>> members votes are binding the guidelines say that the PPMC is >>> responsible for recommending new committers. To gain such a >>> recommendation a vote is held and the PPMC members votes are binding >>> (this is not sufficient for committer access to be granted though). If >>> the decision is to recommend and 3 IPMC members vote then it goes to >>> the IPMC for silent consensus. If the decision is to recommend and >>> less than 3 IPMC members vote then it goes to the IPMC for a full vote >>> as per the process. >>> >>> When it comes to voting for a release I the same rules should apply as >>> for voting in a new committer. >>> >>> I have tried to interpret the rules, but this is the best >>> interpretation I have come up with. >>> >>> What do people think? >>> Thanks >>> Alasdair >>> >>> -- >>> Alasdair Nottingham >>> [email protected] >> >> > > > > -- > Alasdair Nottingham > [email protected] > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet ------------------------ Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ ------------------------ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
