ok, sorry for the delay. i did some outdoor weather proof box survey. i think NISCO boxes are the standard in israel, most of the stores carry them and can get specific models. but they go up to 20cm (for around 42nis) http://i.imgur.com/t8N8Z4G.jpg
ולנציק - רחוב אלנבי 123 carry this nice one, i didnt catch the maker, but its popular in other stores as well. a bit bigger with 23cm width and around 15cm deep. for 65nis or 60nis for non clear version. http://i.imgur.com/O84dtfP.jpg On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Amir Sagie <arig-disc...@taproot.org.il>wrote: > Hey Yaval, valuable post, let me add my take on this - > > > What I'm trying to point to is an actual demand from people to > > actively participate in such a network (with obvious varying levels of > > technical aptitude.) > > > > With that in mind, I can't help but feel we're slightly off-track with > > our current efforts. Most of the active Arig participants (myself > > included) come from a strong technical background, and thus making it > > natural to navigate our activity towards hard technical discussions > > and development. All the while, it feels (to me, at least) that we > > need to be putting more effort into deploying actual technology on the > > ground - even if it is out-of-the-box and rough around the edges - > > such that we are in touch with people who are interested in > > participating in the network, but lack the knowledge or motivation to > > enter the core technical discussions. It might be that case that in > > the end of day, we'll have more participation and more motivation to > > continue the development we want to see, but at a faster pace. > > I can see your point and fully agree - there are people out there who > could use the technology *today*, and we should focus on reaching them. > So why is this process taking so long? well, consider > the problem at hand - maximizing impact, given our current resource pool > (think people,hardware,know-how) and the available task surface > (fund-raising, coding, on-the-ground work, etc.) - tough one right? even > more considering what you've mentioned, with different views on which are > the lowest hanging fruit, interpretation of impact, the time-scale we > measure things by etc. Then consider unexpected things like Beit-Hair... > > So, what's the way forward? I think borrowing from TAMI mentality makes > the most sense - people with available time simply DO. I don't see any > effort being lost in the near future in this mode of operation, at least > until we get more hands involved. > > One thing I can point to which seems to have worked out nicely for > guifi.net in terms of on-the-ground presence is a fund-the-next-node > wiki widget - the basic idea is simple: we always have a plan in hand > for the next node we'd like to deploy - role, hw, location and all. Then > we get a real-world price estimate for it, and slowly move towards that > goal with a nice front-page wiki progress bar. I think this can gain > momentum after a few successful nodes are born this way... anyway that's > one of my current top TODOs. > > > Personally, I am gearing myself towards more on-the-ground activity in > > the south TLV area (Jaffa, Florentin, Shapira) where there is lots of > > interest in Arig and actual deployment of nodes with high probability > > of physical connections. > > > > I believe that this is what we should be focusing on in the near > > future, in order for Arig to successfully bootstrap. > > That would be awsome. If you can manage to deploy some nodes using AIB, > that would be cool, and even better would be upstream'ing image > configuration patches. > > > Please let me know if you feel the same or if I'm tx'ing on a > > completely different channel :) > > Not at all - personally I was stalling in hope to post back to this > thread with good news about a couple of Mikrotik routerboard 433AH > boards heading our way, alas the auction gods were not on my side ;] > > To end on a positive note, I'm adding a picture for what may be the > first? 2014 node - it's a laptop based rig, dual miniPCIe, aimed towards > hosting virtual nodes for firmware testing & automatic firmware > upgrading, without undermining the stability of the core system. There's > still much room for tuning such rigs in terms of power consumption, but > with proper BIOS settings and down-scaling CPU freq. I'm optimistic. > With, *ahem* Yair's approval, I hope to deploy a similar rig at his > place soon. > > Keep up the good work, and happy hacking! > Amir > > > Cheers, > > - Yuval > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > arig-discuss mailing list > > arig-discuss@lists.subsignal.org > > https://lists.subsignal.org/mailman/listinfo/arig-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > arig-discuss mailing list > arig-discuss@lists.subsignal.org > https://lists.subsignal.org/mailman/listinfo/arig-discuss > > -- yair99@gmail 050-6301212 tlv, israel
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