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1. Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2012-6: Revising Section 4.4 C/I
Reserved Pool Size (Christopher Morrow)
2. Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2012-6: Revising Section 4.4 C/I
Reserved Pool Size (Christopher Morrow)
3. Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2012-6: Revising Section 4.4 C/I
Reserved Pool Size (Christopher Morrow)
4. Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2012-6: Revising Section 4.4 C/I
Reserved Pool Size (Christopher Morrow)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:01:01 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <[email protected]>
To: John Curran <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2012-6: Revising Section
4.4 C/I Reserved Pool Size
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On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:18 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Chris Grundemann <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Chris Grundemann <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are statistics for the number of Critical Infrastructure requests and
>>>> assignments over the past year (or longer) easily accessible
>>>> somewhere?
>>>
>>> The raw data on the assignments made is available here:
>>>
>>> <https://www.arin.net/knowledge/micro_allocations.html>
>>
>> Is there data on _when_ they were handed out? E.g. How many
>> assignments were made each month, and each year, for the past 12-18
>> months and 3-5 years?
>
> We haven't traditionally produced summary statistics for the critical
> infrastructure
> assignments, but they do appear both in Whois as well as the "Raw Historical
> Delegation"
> files <https://www.arin.net/knowledge/statistics/rir.html> with the date of
> assignment.
>
> Do you want ARIN to produce a historic summary of these assignments?
for y in 08 09 10 11 12; do
for m in January Februrary March April May June July August
September October November December ; do
echo -n "20${y}-${m}: "
wget -4qO -
http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-issued/20${y}-${m}.txt.gz | gzip
-dc | egrep '^Add 19[92]\.' 2 > /dev/null| wc -l
done
done
then just total things up...
2008-December: 0
2009-January: 0
2009-Februrary: 0
2009-March: 53
2009-April: 17
2009-May: 0
2009-June: 2
2009-July: 0
2009-August: 0
2009-September: 0
2009-October: 0
2009-November: 0
2009-December: 0
2010-January: 0
2010-Februrary: 0
2010-March: 2
2010-April: 37
2010-May: 48
2010-June: 55
2010-July: 47
2010-August: 49
2010-September: 52
2010-October: 40
2010-November: 45
2010-December: 39
2011-January: 45
2011-Februrary: 0
2011-March: 41
2011-April: 29
2011-May: 59
2011-June: 63
2011-July: 50
2011-August: 71
2011-September: 53
2011-October: 81
2011-November: 53
2011-December: 61
2012-January: 66
2012-Februrary: 0
2012-March: 93
2012-April: 89
2012-May: 101
2012-June: 84
2012-July: 83
2012-August: 84
2012-September: 39
2012-October: 8
$ awk '{tot=tot+$2} END{print tot}' /tmp/x
1739
So, since 12/2008 ARIN has allocated ~1750 allocations (not making the
distinction between /21 and /24... could though easily enough, want
that?). We're proposing to set aside 512 /24's ... which PROBABLY
would last less than 1.5yrs at current rates (*which seem to be
accelerating)
I think without numbers on the larger growth users (generic-tld
people) it's not wise to pick a number so small.
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:33:54 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <[email protected]>
To: John Curran <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2012-6: Revising Section
4.4 C/I Reserved Pool Size
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:18 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Chris Grundemann <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Chris Grundemann <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are statistics for the number of Critical Infrastructure requests and
>>>>> assignments over the past year (or longer) easily accessible
>>>>> somewhere?
>>>>
>>>> The raw data on the assignments made is available here:
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.arin.net/knowledge/micro_allocations.html>
>>>
>>> Is there data on _when_ they were handed out? E.g. How many
>>> assignments were made each month, and each year, for the past 12-18
>>> months and 3-5 years?
>>
>> We haven't traditionally produced summary statistics for the critical
>> infrastructure
>> assignments, but they do appear both in Whois as well as the "Raw Historical
>> Delegation"
>> files <https://www.arin.net/knowledge/statistics/rir.html> with the date of
>> assignment.
>>
>> Do you want ARIN to produce a historic summary of these assignments?
>
>
> for y in 08 09 10 11 12; do
> for m in January Februrary March April May June July August
> September October November December ; do
> echo -n "20${y}-${m}: "
> wget -4qO -
> http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-issued/20${y}-${m}.txt.gz | gzip
> -dc | egrep '^Add 19[92]\.' 2 > /dev/null| wc -l
> done
> done
> then just total things up...
>
> 2008-December: 0
> 2009-January: 0
> 2009-Februrary: 0
o a polite caller notes I mis spelled 'February'
o a polite caller notes I am counting all allocations in the 2 /8's
where CI allocations are currently being made, these are not actually
all CI allocations. (every square is a rectangle, not every rectangle
is a square)
o it's probably sensible to wrap the lines with some logic to
summarize how many /24's per this really is (and how much of the /8
was allocated in this period)
-chris
> 2009-March: 53
> 2009-April: 17
> 2009-May: 0
> 2009-June: 2
> 2009-July: 0
> 2009-August: 0
> 2009-September: 0
> 2009-October: 0
> 2009-November: 0
> 2009-December: 0
> 2010-January: 0
> 2010-Februrary: 0
> 2010-March: 2
> 2010-April: 37
> 2010-May: 48
> 2010-June: 55
> 2010-July: 47
> 2010-August: 49
> 2010-September: 52
> 2010-October: 40
> 2010-November: 45
> 2010-December: 39
> 2011-January: 45
> 2011-Februrary: 0
> 2011-March: 41
> 2011-April: 29
> 2011-May: 59
> 2011-June: 63
> 2011-July: 50
> 2011-August: 71
> 2011-September: 53
> 2011-October: 81
> 2011-November: 53
> 2011-December: 61
> 2012-January: 66
> 2012-Februrary: 0
> 2012-March: 93
> 2012-April: 89
> 2012-May: 101
> 2012-June: 84
> 2012-July: 83
> 2012-August: 84
> 2012-September: 39
> 2012-October: 8
>
> $ awk '{tot=tot+$2} END{print tot}' /tmp/x
> 1739
>
> So, since 12/2008 ARIN has allocated ~1750 allocations (not making the
> distinction between /21 and /24... could though easily enough, want
> that?). We're proposing to set aside 512 /24's ... which PROBABLY
> would last less than 1.5yrs at current rates (*which seem to be
> accelerating)
>
> I think without numbers on the larger growth users (generic-tld
> people) it's not wise to pick a number so small.
>
>>
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> ARIN
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PPML
>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to
>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]).
>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:
>> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:13:53 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <[email protected]>
To: John Curran <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2012-6: Revising Section
4.4 C/I Reserved Pool Size
Message-ID:
<cal9jlaz3x1fasmmr9mmlby-soysfvfsjazcj0aba-be0sq1...@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Christopher Morrow
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:18 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Chris Grundemann <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Chris Grundemann <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are statistics for the number of Critical Infrastructure requests and
>>>>>> assignments over the past year (or longer) easily accessible
>>>>>> somewhere?
>>>>>
>>>>> The raw data on the assignments made is available here:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.arin.net/knowledge/micro_allocations.html>
>>>>
>>>> Is there data on _when_ they were handed out? E.g. How many
>>>> assignments were made each month, and each year, for the past 12-18
>>>> months and 3-5 years?
>>>
>>> We haven't traditionally produced summary statistics for the critical
>>> infrastructure
>>> assignments, but they do appear both in Whois as well as the "Raw
>>> Historical Delegation"
>>> files <https://www.arin.net/knowledge/statistics/rir.html> with the date of
>>> assignment.
>>>
>>> Do you want ARIN to produce a historic summary of these assignments?
>>
>>
>> for y in 08 09 10 11 12; do
>> for m in January Februrary March April May June July August
>> September October November December ; do
>> echo -n "20${y}-${m}: "
>> wget -4qO -
>> http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-issued/20${y}-${m}.txt.gz | gzip
>> -dc | egrep '^Add 19[92]\.' 2 > /dev/null| wc -l
>> done
>> done
>> then just total things up...
>>
>> 2008-December: 0
>> 2009-January: 0
>> 2009-Februrary: 0
>
> o a polite caller notes I mis spelled 'February'
> o a polite caller notes I am counting all allocations in the 2 /8's
> where CI allocations are currently being made, these are not actually
> all CI allocations. (every square is a rectangle, not every rectangle
> is a square)
> o it's probably sensible to wrap the lines with some logic to
> summarize how many /24's per this really is (and how much of the /8
> was allocated in this period)
>
> -chris
>
>> 2009-March: 53
>> 2009-April: 17
>> 2009-May: 0
>> 2009-June: 2
>> 2009-July: 0
>> 2009-August: 0
>> 2009-September: 0
>> 2009-October: 0
>> 2009-November: 0
>> 2009-December: 0
>> 2010-January: 0
>> 2010-Februrary: 0
>> 2010-March: 2
>> 2010-April: 37
>> 2010-May: 48
>> 2010-June: 55
>> 2010-July: 47
>> 2010-August: 49
>> 2010-September: 52
>> 2010-October: 40
>> 2010-November: 45
>> 2010-December: 39
>> 2011-January: 45
>> 2011-Februrary: 0
>> 2011-March: 41
>> 2011-April: 29
>> 2011-May: 59
>> 2011-June: 63
>> 2011-July: 50
>> 2011-August: 71
>> 2011-September: 53
>> 2011-October: 81
>> 2011-November: 53
>> 2011-December: 61
>> 2012-January: 66
>> 2012-Februrary: 0
>> 2012-March: 93
>> 2012-April: 89
>> 2012-May: 101
>> 2012-June: 84
>> 2012-July: 83
>> 2012-August: 84
>> 2012-September: 39
>> 2012-October: 8
>>
>> $ awk '{tot=tot+$2} END{print tot}' /tmp/x
>> 1739
fixing february: 1,892 - allocations from these 2 /8s.
Total /24 count: 10,832
1/12th or so of the 2 /8's? I'm not sure how much of the 2 /8's were
allocated prior to the start of this data though.
Rates over time of /24 equivalent allocations:
2008-December: 0
2009-January: 0
2009-February: 92
2009-March: 278
2009-April: 96
2009-May: 0
2009-June: 17
2009-July: 0
2009-August: 0
2009-September: 0
2009-October: 0
2009-November: 0
2009-December: 0
2010-January: 0
2010-February: 3
2010-March: 5
2010-April: 184
2010-May: 256
2010-June: 293
2010-July: 256
2010-August: 257
2010-September: 332
2010-October: 206
2010-November: 260
2010-December: 212
2011-January: 272
2011-February: 376
2011-March: 210
2011-April: 151
2011-May: 328
2011-June: 350
2011-July: 256
2011-August: 357
2011-September: 280
2011-October: 430
2011-November: 301
2011-December: 284
2012-January: 332
2012-February: 308
2012-March: 432
2012-April: 371
2012-May: 409
2012-June: 359
2012-July: 848
2012-August: 532
2012-September: 771
2012-October: 128
and a pretty graph of the above:
<http://goo.gl/fD1oE>
In general, for the allocations in the 2 /8's in question it seems
there's an upwards push for this sort of space (although it's not
clear if the allocations here are for CI or other things). I wonder
how the data looks for overall allocations across the same time?
I think I can make a similar graph for all data...let's see :)
-chris
>> So, since 12/2008 ARIN has allocated ~1750 allocations (not making the
>> distinction between /21 and /24... could though easily enough, want
>> that?). We're proposing to set aside 512 /24's ... which PROBABLY
>> would last less than 1.5yrs at current rates (*which seem to be
>> accelerating)
>>
>> I think without numbers on the larger growth users (generic-tld
>> people) it's not wise to pick a number so small.
>>
>>>
>>> John Curran
>>> President and CEO
>>> ARIN
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PPML
>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to
>>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]).
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------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:06:08 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <[email protected]>
To: John Curran <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2012-6: Revising Section
4.4 C/I Reserved Pool Size
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<cal9jlaa1tgr7z7bljfo+akm_d5+ztbhhaby4apeltbnbevp...@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Christopher Morrow
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Christopher Morrow
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:18 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Chris Grundemann <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Chris Grundemann <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are statistics for the number of Critical Infrastructure requests and
>>>>>>> assignments over the past year (or longer) easily accessible
>>>>>>> somewhere?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The raw data on the assignments made is available here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.arin.net/knowledge/micro_allocations.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there data on _when_ they were handed out? E.g. How many
>>>>> assignments were made each month, and each year, for the past 12-18
>>>>> months and 3-5 years?
>>>>
>>>> We haven't traditionally produced summary statistics for the critical
>>>> infrastructure
>>>> assignments, but they do appear both in Whois as well as the "Raw
>>>> Historical Delegation"
>>>> files <https://www.arin.net/knowledge/statistics/rir.html> with the date
>>>> of assignment.
>>>>
>>>> Do you want ARIN to produce a historic summary of these assignments?
>>>
>>>
>>> for y in 08 09 10 11 12; do
>>> for m in January Februrary March April May June July August
>>> September October November December ; do
>>> echo -n "20${y}-${m}: "
>>> wget -4qO -
>>> http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-issued/20${y}-${m}.txt.gz | gzip
>>> -dc | egrep '^Add 19[92]\.' 2 > /dev/null| wc -l
>>> done
>>> done
>>> then just total things up...
>>>
>>> 2008-December: 0
>>> 2009-January: 0
>>> 2009-Februrary: 0
>>
>> o a polite caller notes I mis spelled 'February'
>> o a polite caller notes I am counting all allocations in the 2 /8's
>> where CI allocations are currently being made, these are not actually
>> all CI allocations. (every square is a rectangle, not every rectangle
>> is a square)
>> o it's probably sensible to wrap the lines with some logic to
>> summarize how many /24's per this really is (and how much of the /8
>> was allocated in this period)
>>
>> -chris
>>
>>> 2009-March: 53
>>> 2009-April: 17
>>> 2009-May: 0
>>> 2009-June: 2
>>> 2009-July: 0
>>> 2009-August: 0
>>> 2009-September: 0
>>> 2009-October: 0
>>> 2009-November: 0
>>> 2009-December: 0
>>> 2010-January: 0
>>> 2010-Februrary: 0
>>> 2010-March: 2
>>> 2010-April: 37
>>> 2010-May: 48
>>> 2010-June: 55
>>> 2010-July: 47
>>> 2010-August: 49
>>> 2010-September: 52
>>> 2010-October: 40
>>> 2010-November: 45
>>> 2010-December: 39
>>> 2011-January: 45
>>> 2011-Februrary: 0
>>> 2011-March: 41
>>> 2011-April: 29
>>> 2011-May: 59
>>> 2011-June: 63
>>> 2011-July: 50
>>> 2011-August: 71
>>> 2011-September: 53
>>> 2011-October: 81
>>> 2011-November: 53
>>> 2011-December: 61
>>> 2012-January: 66
>>> 2012-Februrary: 0
>>> 2012-March: 93
>>> 2012-April: 89
>>> 2012-May: 101
>>> 2012-June: 84
>>> 2012-July: 83
>>> 2012-August: 84
>>> 2012-September: 39
>>> 2012-October: 8
>>>
>>> $ awk '{tot=tot+$2} END{print tot}' /tmp/x
>>> 1739
>
> fixing february: 1,892 - allocations from these 2 /8s.
> Total /24 count: 10,832
>
> 1/12th or so of the 2 /8's? I'm not sure how much of the 2 /8's were
> allocated prior to the start of this data though.
>
> Rates over time of /24 equivalent allocations:
> 2008-December: 0
> 2009-January: 0
> 2009-February: 92
> 2009-March: 278
> 2009-April: 96
> 2009-May: 0
> 2009-June: 17
> 2009-July: 0
> 2009-August: 0
> 2009-September: 0
> 2009-October: 0
> 2009-November: 0
> 2009-December: 0
> 2010-January: 0
> 2010-February: 3
> 2010-March: 5
> 2010-April: 184
> 2010-May: 256
> 2010-June: 293
> 2010-July: 256
> 2010-August: 257
> 2010-September: 332
> 2010-October: 206
> 2010-November: 260
> 2010-December: 212
> 2011-January: 272
> 2011-February: 376
> 2011-March: 210
> 2011-April: 151
> 2011-May: 328
> 2011-June: 350
> 2011-July: 256
> 2011-August: 357
> 2011-September: 280
> 2011-October: 430
> 2011-November: 301
> 2011-December: 284
> 2012-January: 332
> 2012-February: 308
> 2012-March: 432
> 2012-April: 371
> 2012-May: 409
> 2012-June: 359
> 2012-July: 848
> 2012-August: 532
> 2012-September: 771
> 2012-October: 128
>
> and a pretty graph of the above:
> <http://goo.gl/fD1oE>
>
> In general, for the allocations in the 2 /8's in question it seems
> there's an upwards push for this sort of space (although it's not
> clear if the allocations here are for CI or other things). I wonder
> how the data looks for overall allocations across the same time?
>
> I think I can make a similar graph for all data...let's see :)
The list data being used above includes this 'bug':
Add 69.57.208.0-216.250.127.255 - in June 2011
(this is some number of millions of /24 equivalents... the right
number is closer to: 1403 for that month)
That aside, it looks like a similar graph to above is really:
<http://goo.gl/Hnoq6>
(the above analysis could be pretty quickly automated, if there's
interest I can probably spin that out from the few things done for
this data so far)
-chris
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