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Today's Topics:
1. Advisory Council Meeting Results - October 2012 (ARIN)
2. Draft Policy ARIN-2012-5: Removal of Renumbering Requirement
for Small Multihomers - Last Call (ARIN)
3. Draft Policy ARIN-2012-7: Reassignments for Third Party
Internet Access (TPIA) over Cable - Last Call (ARIN)
4. Re: Advisory Council Meeting Results - October 2012 (ARIN)
5. Re: ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement (David Farmer)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:05:34 -0400
From: ARIN <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - October 2012
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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In accordance with the ARIN Policy Development Process the ARIN Advisory
Council (AC) held a meeting on 26 October 2012 and made decisions about
several draft policies and proposals.
The AC moved the following draft policies to last call (they will be
posted separately to last call):
ARIN-2012-5: Removal of Renumbering Requirement for Small Multihomers
ARIN-2012-7: Reassignments for Third Party Internet Access (TPIA)
over Cable
The following remains on the AC's docket:
ARIN-2012-2: IPv6 Subsequent Allocations Utilization Requirement
ARIN-2012-6: Revising Section 4.4 C/I Reserved Pool Size
ARIN-2012-8: Aligning 8.2 and 8.3 Transfer Policy
The following proposal was added to the AC's docket for development
and evaluation:
ARIN-prop-182 Update Residential Customer Definition to not exclude
wireless as Residential Service
The AC abandoned the following:
ARIN-prop-180 ISP Private Reassignment
The AC provided the following statement: "The ARIN Advisory Council
decided to abandon ARIN-prop-180 based on feedback from the community on
PPML and at the Public Policy Meeting in Dallas. The community
expressed a clear lack of support for the policy idea as presented, and
while several other ideas were discussed, there was no clear consensus
on a path forward for this policy proposal. The AC would encourage the
originator and any interested members of the community to continue
discussions on the issue, and would welcome a future policy proposal on
the topic if any areas of consensus can be found. Due to the
difficulties of gaining consensus on a policy that is so broad, the AC
recommends that future work in this area should be narrowed to solve a
specific problem."
The AC abandoned ARIN-prop-182. Anyone dissatisfied with this decision
may initiate a petition. The petition to advance a proposal would be the
"Discussion Petition." The deadline to begin a petition will be five
business days after the AC's draft meeting minutes are published. For
more information on starting and participating in petitions, see PDP
Petitions at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp_petitions.html
Draft Policy and Proposal texts are available at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
Regards,
Communications and Member Services
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:05:57 -0400
From: ARIN <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2012-5: Removal of Renumbering
Requirement for Small Multihomers - Last Call
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) met on 26 October 2012 and decided to
send the following draft policy to last call:
Draft Policy ARIN-2012-5: Removal of Renumbering Requirement for
Small Multihomers
Feedback is encouraged during the last call period. All comments should
be provided to the Public Policy Mailing List. Last call for 2012-5 will
expire on 14 November 2012. After last call the AC will conduct their
last call review.
The draft policy text is below and available at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/
The ARIN Policy Development Process is available at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
Regards,
Communications and Member Services
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
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Draft Policy ARIN-2012-5
Removal of Renumbering Requirement for Small Multihomers
Date: 25 July 2012
Policy statement:
Remove the entire subsection 4.3.6.2 "Additional Assignments for Small
Multihomers".
Rationale:
The policy has had the unintended effect of freezing small multi homed
end users from being able to return to ARIN for additional assignments.
The requirement to renumber out of space is unique and is applying an
undue burden of renumbering what would be an organization's core
infrastructure.
Timetable for implementation: immediate
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:06:11 -0400
From: ARIN <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2012-7: Reassignments for Third
Party Internet Access (TPIA) over Cable - Last Call
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) met on 26 October 2012 and decided to
send the following draft policy to last call:
Draft Policy ARIN-2012-7: Reassignments for Third Party Internet
Access (TPIA) over Cable
Feedback is encouraged during the last call period. All comments should
be provided to the Public Policy Mailing List. Last call for 2012-7 will
expire on 14 November 2012. After last call the AC will conduct their
last call review.
The draft policy text is below and available at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/
The ARIN Policy Development Process is available at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
Regards,
Communications and Member Services
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
## * ##
Draft Policy ARIN-2012-7
Reassignments for Third Party Internet Access (TPIA) over Cable
Date: 12 October 2012
Policy statement:
Insert new section to NRPM to read as follows:
4.2.3.8 IP addresses reassigned by an ISP to an incumbent cable operator
for use with Third Party Internet Access (TPIA) will be counted as fully
used once they are assigned to equipment by the underlying cable carrier
provided they meet the following requirements:
* initial assignments to each piece of hardware represent the smallest
subnet reasonably required to deploy service to the customer base served
by the hardware
* additional assignments to each piece of hardware are made only when
all previous assignments to that specific piece of hardware are at least
80% used and represent a three month supply
* IP allocations issued through 4.2.3.8 are non-transferable via section
8.3 and section 8.4 for a period of 36 months. In the case of a section
8.2 transfer the IP assignment must be utilized for the same purpose or
needs based justification at a rate consistent with intended use.
Rationale:
A unique situation exists particularly, and perhaps only, in the
Canadian region that is preventing legitimate ISPs from obtaining
subsequent allocations of IPv4 addresses for use with the Third Party
Internet Access
(TPIA) framework that has been mandated by the CRTC (Canada's version of
the FCC). Adding this section to the NRPM will allow ISPs that intend to
make use of this CRTC mandated framework to obtain the number resources
that they require but are currently unable to obtain.
Timetable for implementation: immediate
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:03:14 -0400
From: ARIN <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - October
2012
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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We've corrected a typo in the message below. Prop-180 was abandoned by
the AC. This action may be petitioned.
In accordance with the ARIN Policy Development Process the ARIN Advisory
Council (AC) held a meeting on 26 October 2012 and made decisions about
several draft policies and proposals.
The AC moved the following draft policies to last call (they will be
posted separately to last call):
ARIN-2012-5: Removal of Renumbering Requirement for Small Multihomers
ARIN-2012-7: Reassignments for Third Party Internet Access (TPIA)
over Cable
The following remains on the AC's docket:
ARIN-2012-2: IPv6 Subsequent Allocations Utilization Requirement
ARIN-2012-6: Revising Section 4.4 C/I Reserved Pool Size
ARIN-2012-8: Aligning 8.2 and 8.3 Transfer Policy
The following proposal was added to the AC's docket for development
and evaluation:
ARIN-prop-182 Update Residential Customer Definition to not exclude
wireless as Residential Service
The AC abandoned the following:
ARIN-prop-180 ISP Private Reassignment
The AC provided the following statement: "The ARIN Advisory Council
decided to abandon ARIN-prop-180 based on feedback from the community on
PPML and at the Public Policy Meeting in Dallas. The community
expressed a clear lack of support for the policy idea as presented, and
while several other ideas were discussed, there was no clear consensus
on a path forward for this policy proposal. The AC would encourage the
originator and any interested members of the community to continue
discussions on the issue, and would welcome a future policy proposal on
the topic if any areas of consensus can be found. Due to the
difficulties of gaining consensus on a policy that is so broad, the AC
recommends that future work in this area should be narrowed to solve a
specific problem."
The AC abandoned ARIN-prop-180. Anyone dissatisfied with this decision
may initiate a petition. The petition to advance a proposal would be the
"Discussion Petition." The deadline to begin a petition will be five
business days after the AC's draft meeting minutes are published. For
more information on starting and participating in petitions, see PDP
Petitions at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp_petitions.html
Draft Policy and Proposal texts are available at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
Regards,
Communications and Member Services
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:53:54 -0500
From: David Farmer <[email protected]>
To: Martin Hannigan <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer
enhancement
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On 10/30/12 15:32 , Martin Hannigan wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM, David Farmer <[email protected]> wrote:
...
>> Section 8.4 is fairly specific that there needs to be a reciprocal policy at
>> the other RIR, if you remember I argued against that, but that is ARIN's
>> policy.
>
> +1
>
>> I'm willing to accept this on to the docket in order to not create a
>> catch-22, and make it clear ARIN is willing to consider this of other RIRs
>> are too. However, I'm not sure significant effort should be put into it
>> until at least ASN transfers have been proposed at another RIR.
>
> Why bother working on policy if you aren't going to take it seriously?
> That also implies that we don't take registry accuracy seriously FWIW.
I do take this policy seriously and even support it. But without
reciprocal policy at another RIR this is actually an irrelevant piece of
policy. So unless there is some sign of another RIR taking up the
issue, I believe the ARIN community has more important and timely issues
to work on.
As a sign of good faith to the other RIRs I'd be willing to take this on
the docket, I don't want to send the message we're not interested, like
I said I support this. However, without some sign of another RIR
taking up the issue, I couldn't in good faith prioritizes this over
other policy issues. I'm not saying it can't or won't get worked on,
but that just about everything else should probably take priority over
it, unless there is activity on the issue in another RIR.
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