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Today's Topics:
1. Utilization policy is not aggregate (Jeffrey Lyon)
2. Re: Utilization policy is not aggregate (Matthew Kaufman)
3. Re: Utilization policy is not aggregate (Matthew Wilder)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:36:52 -0500
From: Jeffrey Lyon <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected] List" <[email protected]>
Subject: [arin-ppml] Utilization policy is not aggregate
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All,
I put in a IPv4 request today and received this reply:
-- snip --
Message:Hello Jeffrey,
Thank you for the reply. We don't aggregate your holdings to come up
with a utilization percent. Each individual block must be efficiently
utilized. That's how policy is written, and that's how ARIN's operated
since our inception. 2% of a /21 isn't a lot, you're right, but policy
is policy, and it says 80%, so it's best if we don't make exceptions
and hold everyone to the same rule, dont you agree?
-- snip --
We hold 2 x /21 and it seems that 78% + 92% = 85% aggregate
utilization is not sufficient under current policy. I do not believe
it is equitable that we're ineligible to request resources because our
space is deaggregated where a network operator with contiguous /20
would be eligible.
Would anyone else be in favor of amending this?
--
Jeffrey A. Lyon, CISSP
President, Black Lotus Communications
mobile: (757) 304-0668 | gtalk: [email protected] | skype: blacklotus.net
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:07:27 -0800
From: Matthew Kaufman <[email protected]>
To: Jeffrey Lyon <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected] List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Utilization policy is not aggregate
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Agree, this reply is insane. Draft a better policy.
Matthew Kaufman
(Sent from my iPhone)
On Nov 13, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Jeffrey Lyon <[email protected]> wrote:
> All,
>
> I put in a IPv4 request today and received this reply:
>
> -- snip --
>
> Message:Hello Jeffrey,
>
> Thank you for the reply. We don't aggregate your holdings to come up
> with a utilization percent. Each individual block must be efficiently
> utilized. That's how policy is written, and that's how ARIN's operated
> since our inception. 2% of a /21 isn't a lot, you're right, but policy
> is policy, and it says 80%, so it's best if we don't make exceptions
> and hold everyone to the same rule, dont you agree?
>
> -- snip --
>
> We hold 2 x /21 and it seems that 78% + 92% = 85% aggregate
> utilization is not sufficient under current policy. I do not believe
> it is equitable that we're ineligible to request resources because our
> space is deaggregated where a network operator with contiguous /20
> would be eligible.
>
> Would anyone else be in favor of amending this?
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Lyon, CISSP
> President, Black Lotus Communications
> mobile: (757) 304-0668 | gtalk: [email protected] | skype: blacklotus.net
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:04:57 -0700
From: Matthew Wilder <[email protected]>
To: Jeffrey Lyon <[email protected]>, "[email protected]
List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Utilization policy is not aggregate
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I would absolutely support a change in this policy. I agree it is currently
highly unfavorable to those with multiple allocations. I know because I have
quite a few allocations, and trying to get them all up to 80% utilization is
like tacking jello to the wall. Not a fun exercise. You have my +1.
Matthew Wilder
TELUS
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Jeffrey Lyon [[email protected]]
Sent: November 13, 2012 7:36 PM
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Subject: [arin-ppml] Utilization policy is not aggregate
All,
I put in a IPv4 request today and received this reply:
-- snip --
Message:Hello Jeffrey,
Thank you for the reply. We don't aggregate your holdings to come up
with a utilization percent. Each individual block must be efficiently
utilized. That's how policy is written, and that's how ARIN's operated
since our inception. 2% of a /21 isn't a lot, you're right, but policy
is policy, and it says 80%, so it's best if we don't make exceptions
and hold everyone to the same rule, dont you agree?
-- snip --
We hold 2 x /21 and it seems that 78% + 92% = 85% aggregate
utilization is not sufficient under current policy. I do not believe
it is equitable that we're ineligible to request resources because our
space is deaggregated where a network operator with contiguous /20
would be eligible.
Would anyone else be in favor of amending this?
--
Jeffrey A. Lyon, CISSP
President, Black Lotus Communications
mobile: (757) 304-0668 | gtalk: [email protected] | skype: blacklotus.net
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