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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Utilization policy is not aggregate (Seth Mattinen)
2. Re: Utilization policy is not aggregate (Jimmy Hess)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:47:37 -0800
From: Seth Mattinen <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Utilization policy is not aggregate
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What about taking a /24 out to use for something like BGP anycasting?
The whole thing is immediately "used" for that purpose, and the last
time I asked, policy doesn't account for that.
~Seth
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 02:03:57 -0600
From: Jimmy Hess <[email protected]>
To: Seth Mattinen <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Utilization policy is not aggregate
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On 11/21/12, Seth Mattinen <[email protected]> wrote:
It seems like just a weakness in the policy's concept of what utilization is.
In the case of BGP anycasting, you have a /24, part of which becomes
"unutilizable",
for purposes other than anycasting, for technical reasons; as long
as you don't allocate multiple /24s in this way, and still have very
few anycasted services, then a complete model of utilization should
count it utilized.
The policy could be revised to state something to the effect that,
when an ISP or end user is allocated a minimum of 1000 or more
addresses, up to a maximum of a single /24 equivalent per AS number;
no more than 1 /24 per 2048 IP addresses allocated, with an adequate
showing of technical justification and contracts requiring this, can
be counted as utilized with a justification of "Service provisioning
agreement requiring unique, separate routing (Anycast BGP)", and
therefore unused addresses from the range are to be considered
utilized space, for the purpose of justifying additional
allocations for non-Anycast use.
> What about taking a /24 out to use for something like BGP anycasting?
> The whole thing is immediately "used" for that purpose, and the last
> time I asked, policy doesn't account for that.
> ~Seth
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-JH
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