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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: REVISED: Draft Policy ARIN-2012-8: Aligning 8.2 and 8.3
      Transfer Policy (John Curran)
   2. Re: REVISED: Draft Policy ARIN-2012-8: Aligning 8.2 and 8.3
      Transfer Policy (Gary Buhrmaster)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 04:41:19 +0000
From: John Curran <[email protected]>
To: Gary Buhrmaster <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] REVISED: Draft Policy ARIN-2012-8: Aligning
        8.2 and 8.3 Transfer Policy
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On Dec 11, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Gary Buhrmaster <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Scott Leibrand <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> No objections here.  As far as I can tell the only substantive change (other
>> than codifying existing practice) is the requirement that "The new entity
>> must sign an RSA covering all transferred resources."  That seems like a
>> (minor) improvement in policy.
> 
> Is there any concern from the community regarding the word "an" in
> 
>   ... must sign *an* RSA ...
> 
> While any RSA is better than none, I seem to recall a similar
> wording was interpreted by ARIN in a way that caused some
> members of the community some consternation (i.e. it allowed
> a Legacy RSA).

To be clear, the terms and conditions of the LRSA and RSA are now materially 
the same, except for the reference to the fee schedule contained in each.  If
there are implications for the policy because of the difference in fees made
available to legacy address holders via the LRSA, it is worth discussing here, 
but note that it will ultimately be a matter for the ARIN Board of Trustees
(which has responsibility for establishing the fees and services for ARIN)

ARIN has had situations where it was deemed reasonable to proceed with an LRSA
rather than the standard RSA for the recipient, due to the resources in 
question 
being issued before ARIN's formation and subject to bankruptcy court order.  
This 
was before the extensive outreach with respect to transfers, and while is 
unlikely
to recur, to preclude an LRSA could ultimately be very costly to ARIN if such
were to happen and we had to engage solely to correct this aspect of an order.

I hope this information is helpful to the community in further consideration 
of the draft policy.

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:40:59 -0800
From: Gary Buhrmaster <[email protected]>
To: John Curran <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] REVISED: Draft Policy ARIN-2012-8: Aligning
        8.2 and 8.3 Transfer Policy
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On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:
...
> I hope this information is helpful to the community in further consideration
> of the draft policy.

Given the clarification, I support the policy as written.

Gary


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