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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Draft Policy ARIN-2013-5: LIR/ISP and End-user
Definitions (Alexander, Daniel)
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 20:43:06 +0000
From: "Alexander, Daniel" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-5: LIR/ISP and
End-user Definitions
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I like this.
-Dan
From: Jason Schiller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 16:57:39 -0400
To: Chris Grundemann <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-5: LIR/ISP and End-user
Definitions
I know people won't like this, but if you are going to pick one term ISP/LIR,
I'd recommend LIR.
LIR shows up in the other regions, and also global polices.
For clarity I think the best thing to do is use "ISP/LIR" as the single term
everywhere.
I think Chris Grundeman's simplification of ISP/LIR is fine, and his
clarification of end-user is good.
__Jason
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Chris Grundemann
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 5:53 PM, ARIN <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
[...]
> Policy statement:
>
> Update NRPM 2.4 and 2.6 to read:
>
> 2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) / Internet Service Provider (ISP) The
> terms Internet Service Provider (ISP) and LIR are used interchangeably in
> this document. A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that assigns address
> space to the users of the network services that it provides. Therefore, LIRs
> / ISPs are organizations that reassign addresses to end users and/or
> reallocate addresses to other ISPs/LIRs.
I think this is a bit redundant ('a LIR is an IR') and could be made
more similar to the end-user definition thus:
"2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) / Internet Service Provider (ISP)
The terms Internet Service Provider (ISP) and LIR are used
interchangeably in this document. An ISP is a LIR that receives
allocations of IP addresses to provide network services to its users.
An LIR / ISP reassigns addresses to end users and/or reallocates
addresses to other ISPs / LIRs."
I'm also curious as to the community sentiment regarding using these
two terms interchangeably. It seems that it may be more clear to go
through the NRPM and make change to one or the other in all instances.
Would using a single term provide better clarity can continuity?
Which term would you prefer to use if that were the case (LIR or ISP)?
> 2.6. End-user An end-user is an organization receiving assignments of IP
> addresses exclusively for use in its operational networks, and does not
> register any reassignments of that space.
It's not the registration of the reassignment that makes an LIR/ISP
different from an end-user, but the reassignment itself. I think the
following text makes this more clear:
"2.6. End-user An end-user is an organization that receives
assignments of IP addresses exclusively for use in its operational
networks. An end-user does not reassign or reallocate addresses to any
other organization."
Cheers,
~Chris
> Timetable for implementation: Immediate
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