I support the proposal as seen Rudi Daniel (information technologist) 784 430 9235 On Jan 22, 2014 6:41 PM, <arin-ppml-requ...@arin.net> wrote:
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Re: Policy Proposal 2013-8 Subsequent Allocations for > Additional Distrete Network Sites (Andrew Dul) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 06:51:38 +0000 > From: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net> > To: Martin Hannigan <hanni...@gmail.com> > Cc: "arin-ppml@arin.net" <arin-ppml@arin.net> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] NRPM Policies 4.6 and 4.7 Suspended by ARIN > Board > Message-ID: <2e15fdf6-7efd-43eb-abfb-95ab7bc55...@arin.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > On Jan 21, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Martin Hannigan <hanni...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > It should include a reason why policy needed to be suspended > unilaterally and clear competitive support. ARIN has real anti trust > concerns I worry about as a member. The AC is %company heavy in some > respects. We want to make sure this is clean. > > I have suggested to the AC that their recommendation take > the form of a draft policy which would go through the normal > policy development process (including Public Policy meeting > deliberation and advancement based on community support.) > > FYI, > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > ARIN > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:27:37 -1000 > From: Martin Hannigan <hanni...@gmail.com> > To: Andrew Dul <andrew....@quark.net> > Cc: "arin-ppml@arin.net" <arin-ppml@arin.net> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] [arin-council] FW: Section 4.4 Micro > Allocation Conservation Update (prop-200) > Message-ID: > <CAMDXq5NmVDsQdgOBsk5OyqCoDncs=E= > o8s7nh3vai6dqq+s...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Andrew, > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Andrew Dul <andrew....@quark.net> wrote: > > > Hi Marty, > > > > We'll be discussing this at the AC meeting next week. The 2 to 3 > > participants part is pretty straight forward change. The fee schedule > > > > The majority of IXP operators in North America agree. > > part, we'll likely have to discuss if that is in scope for the PDP, if > > not, that part would have to be moved out of the PDP process and > > probably should be moved to the consultation process. > > > > I'm surprised at your comment since the existing policy says this: > > "ISPs and other organizations receiving these micro-allocations will be > charged under the ISP fee schedule, while end-users will be charged under > the fee schedule for end-users. " > > Why wasn't that moved out of the process? Regardless, I'm not particularly > hung up on that as long as there is clarity as to who gets a "extra" > benefit and who does not. The current language is indiscernible. > > Best, > > -M< > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20140121/51e2562f/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:21:14 -0700 > From: CJ Aronson <c...@daydream.com> > To: "arin-ppml@arin.net" <arin-ppml@arin.net> > Subject: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2013-8 Subsequent Allocations for > Additional Distrete Network Sites > Message-ID: > < > cac6jzks+bihmeniymuunr+oce7bm31mswvtj3j2bvgno3au...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi everyone, > > If you have feedback on this proposal please send it to this list. We will > also be discussing the policy proposal at the upcoming PPC. > > Thanks! > ----Cathy > > > *Policy Proposal 2013-8 Subsequent Allocations for Additional Distrete > Network Sites* > > *Problem Statement:* > > During the ARIN 32 PPM, ARIN staff noted in the Policy Implementation and > Experience Report that the current Multiple Discrete Network Policy (MDN) > does not contain criteria for new sites of an existing MDN customer. > > Current ARIN practice is to use the Immediate Need policy (NRPM 4.2.1.6). > > This policy proposal seeks to add NRPM text to clarify criteria for new > sites of existing MDN customers. > > > > *Policy Statement:* > > IPv4: > > Add the following statement to section 4.5.4. > > Upon verification that the organization has already obtained connectivity > at its new discrete network site, the new networks shall be allocated the > minimum allocation size under section 4.2.1.5 unless the organization can > demonstrate additional need using the immediate need criteria (4.2.1.6). > > IPv6: > > Add an additional reference to section 6.11.5.b such that it references > both the initial allocation and subsequent allocation sections of the IPv6 > LIR policy. > > "Each network will be judged against the existing utilization criteria > specified in 6.5.2 and 6.5.3 as if it were a separate organization..." > > > > *Comments*: > > a. Timetable for implementation: immediate > > b. This policy is being proposed based upon the Policy Implementation & > Experience Report from ARIN 32. > > > https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_32/PDF/thursday/nobile-policy.pdf > > c: Older versions of the MDN policy did contain new network criteria. This > criteria appears to have been dropped during subsequent rewrites of the MDN > policy. "The organization must not allocate a CIDR block larger than the > current minimum assignment size of the RIR (currently /20 for ARIN) to a > new network." (https://www.arin.net/policy/archive/nrpm_20041015.pdf) > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20140122/8bd540e2/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:29:35 -0800 > From: Andrew Dul <andrew....@quark.net> > To: arin-ppml@arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2013-8 Subsequent Allocations > for Additional Distrete Network Sites > Message-ID: <52e0464f.4030...@quark.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > As the originator of this policy proposal, I support this draft as written. > > Andrew > > On 1/22/2014 2:21 PM, CJ Aronson wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > If you have feedback on this proposal please send it to this list. We > > will also be discussing the policy proposal at the upcoming PPC. > > > > Thanks! > > ----Cathy > > > > *Policy Proposal 2013-8 Subsequent Allocations for Additional Distrete > > Network Sites > > * > > > > *Problem Statement:* > > > > During the ARIN 32 PPM, ARIN staff noted in the Policy Implementation > > and Experience Report that the current Multiple Discrete Network > > Policy (MDN) does not contain criteria for new sites of an existing > > MDN customer. > > > > Current ARIN practice is to use the Immediate Need policy (NRPM 4.2.1.6). > > > > This policy proposal seeks to add NRPM text to clarify criteria for > > new sites of existing MDN customers. > > > > > > > > *Policy Statement:* > > > > IPv4: > > > > Add the following statement to section 4.5.4. > > > > Upon verification that the organization has already obtained > > connectivity at its new discrete network site, the new networks shall > > be allocated the minimum allocation size under section 4.2.1.5 unless > > the organization can demonstrate additional need using the immediate > > need criteria (4.2.1.6). > > > > IPv6: > > > > Add an additional reference to section 6.11.5.b such that it > > references both the initial allocation and subsequent allocation > > sections of the IPv6 LIR policy. > > > > "Each network will be judged against the existing utilization criteria > > specified in 6.5.2 and 6.5.3 as if it were a separate organization..." > > > > > > > > *Comments*: > > > > a. Timetable for implementation: immediate > > > > b. This policy is being proposed based upon the Policy Implementation > > & Experience Report from ARIN 32. > > > > > https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_32/PDF/thursday/nobile-policy.pdf > > > > c: Older versions of the MDN policy did contain new network criteria. > > This criteria appears to have been dropped during subsequent rewrites > > of the MDN policy. "The organization must not allocate a CIDR block > > larger than the current minimum assignment size of the RIR (currently > > /20 for ARIN) to a new network." > > (https://www.arin.net/policy/archive/nrpm_20041015.pdf) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PPML > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20140122/3a50fa17/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML mailing list > ARIN-PPML@arin.net > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > End of ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 103, Issue 7 > ***************************************** >
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