In general, I think removing needs basis is an utterly bad idea.

However, if we were to do a 1 year trial at /20, to gather data and evaluate 
the actual impacts of such a policy, I would consider that acceptable.

        +       Does it actually lead to increased whois accuracy as proclaimed 
by proponents?
        +       Is there a measurable difference in time required to process 
requests?
        +       How much time is saved per request on average?

Are there other things we would want to learn from such a trial?

Opening the floodgates to /16 seems fool hearty at best IMHO.

Owen

On Apr 29, 2014, at 7:09 AM, TheIpv6guy . <cb.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Opp
> On Apr 28, 2014 10:35 PM, "John Springer" <sprin...@inlandnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > The following timely policy proposal is presented for your consideration, 
> > discussion and comment. Will you please comment?
> >
> > As always, expressions of support or opposition (and their reasons) are 
> > given slightly more weight than reasons why you might be in neither 
> > condition.
> >
> > John Springer
> >
> >
> > ARIN-prop-204 Removing Needs Test from Small IPv4 Transfers
> >
> > Date: 16 April 2014
> > Problem Statement:
> > ARIN staff, faced with a surge in near-exhaust allocations and subsequent 
> > transfer requests and a requirement for team review of these, is spending 
> > scarce staff time on needs testing of small transfers. This proposal seeks 
> > to decrease overall ARIN processing time through elimination of that needs 
> > test.
> > Policy statement:
> > Change the language in NRPM 8.3 after Conditions on the recipient of the 
> > transfer: from "The recipient must demonstrate the need for up to a 
> > 24-month supply of IP address resources under current ARIN policies and 
> > sign an RSA." to "For transfers larger than a /16 equivalent, the recipient 
> > must demonstrate the need for up to a 24-month supply of IP address 
> > resources under current ARIN policies and sign an RSA."
> > Change the language in the third bullet point in NRPM 8.4 after Conditions 
> > on the recipient of the transfer: from "Recipients within the ARIN region 
> > must demonstrate the need for up to a 24-month supply of IPv4 address 
> > space." to "For transfers larger than a /16 equivalent, recipients in the 
> > ARIN region must demonstrate the need for up to a 24-month supply of IP 
> > address resources under current ARIN policies and sign an RSA."
> > Comments:
> > Needs testing has been maintained for transfers largely because the 
> > community wishes to ensure protection against hoarding and speculation in 
> > the IPv4 market. This proposal seeks a middle ground between the 
> > elimination of needs tests for transfers altogether, and the continuance of 
> > needs tests for every transfer. This should help ARIN staff to reduce 
> > transfer processing time, since most transfers have been smaller than /16.
> > Timetable for implementation: Immediate
> >
> 
> Opposed.
> 
> ARIN and the community should focus on deploying ipv6 not pulling the fire 
> alarm on ppml. 
> 
> This is not an emergency. These policies and forces have been around for 
> years.  Clinging to ipv4 is costly. 
> 
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