Let's be clear.. the RIPE NCC will only give a one-time /22 for your 1600 Euros/year. RIPE has always made applicants prove a business presense in the region and I believe that's what the "
- The name of the "Chamber of Commerce" where your company is registered - For example, Companies House, KvK etc." Is referring to. The link is here for your reference: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/member-support/become-a-member/application You'll have to apply and see. If you want more than a /22 you'll have to go to the transfer market. ----Cathy On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Elvis Velea <el...@velea.eu> wrote: > Hi John, > > > On 05/06/14 04:05, John Von Stein wrote: > > Elvis, > > > > So does that mean a US based ISP such as QxC wanted / needed an additional > IPv4 allocation we could simply go to RIPE and get the IPv4 we want/need? > > > yup :) and only for €1600/year and with no transfer fees :) > > cheers, > elvis > > > > Thank you, > > John W. Von Stein > > > > [image: cid:sigimg0@791f5d9d52446f85c6fed00adec61823] > > > > 102 NE 2nd Street > > Suite 136 > > Boca Raton, FL 33432 > > Office: 561-288-6989 > > www.QxCcommunications.com <http://www.qxccommunications.com/> > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net > <arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net>] On Behalf Of Elvis Velea > Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:35 PM > To: David Huberman > Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers > > > > Hi David, > > > > even further... for those that do not know yet, any legal or private > person can become a member of the RIPE NCC while the ARIN > policies/procedures still require a company to have a legal presence in the > ARIN region in order to request resources. > > > > And, btw.. have I already mentioned that the RIPE Community has completely > removed the demonstrated need from their policy? I think I was only > discussing this matter in the APNIC mailing lists and maybe those > subscribed to this mailing list should also be aware of. > > > > cheers, > > elvis > > > > On 05/06/14 03:30, David Huberman wrote: > > > I agree completely, Elvis. There's an argument to be made that if ARIN > won't be flexible with transfer policy, that RIPE becomes the most useful > RIR for operators to work within. There's a further argument that's been > made that the time for regional IRs may be passed (past?) and that IETF > should review the situation. > > > > > > David R Huberman > > > Microsoft Corporation > > > Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS) > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net <arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net> on > > > behalf of Elvis Velea <el...@velea.eu> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:21:52 PM > > > To: arin-ppml@arin.net > > > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > On 05/06/14 02:21, David Huberman wrote: > > >> We're going to be a cross-roads very soon. ARIN is going to exhaust, > and network operators will be unable to obtain additional IPv4 address > blocks from ARIN. At that point, the most obvious solution for IPv4 needs > will be the market. > > > And then, they will be able to register as RIPE NCC members (LIRs) and > > > receive as many IP addresses as they want without having to prove any > > > demonstrated need. All they will need to do is to confirm that they > > > will use these addresses for themselves or their customers. > > > > > >> Proper stewardship of the ARIN function demands that ARIN policy > adjust to what happens in the market. It's not the other way around, if > only because that's not how markets work. > > >> > > >> The ARIN CEO, ARIN's General Counsel, the Harvard economist ARIN pays, > professors who study markets, brokers who operate in the market, and buyers > and sellers who buy and sell in the market have all told the ARIN community > the same story for around 5 years now: the market is going to act as a > market, and ARIN policy needs to be ready for it; ARIN policy needs to make > sense with the dynamics of the market. > > >> > > >> It's hard to know how to argue with operators like Owen and the > > >> Google folks who all say the opposite; that ARIN policy should stick > > >> to the same ideals as 1995 (important ideals for a very long time!) > > >> and not adjust. I fear the results of this kind of ostracism :( > > > Well, then let them slowly kill the ARIN function. If all ARIN members > > > can no longer get resources and they stop paying and go to the > > > cheapest RIR (which btw is RIPE NCC with EUR1600/year no matter how > > > many resources one has) and get as many resources they want... what do > > > you think will happen? > > > > > > cheers, > > > elvis > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > PPML > > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > > > Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). > > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > > Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PPML > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues. >
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