>From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On Behalf 
>Of William Herrin
>Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 6:19 AM
>To: Michael Peddemors
>Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
>Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN IPs and Spammers? => Need for Governance
>
>On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Michael Peddemors <mich...@linuxmagic.com> 
>wrote:
>> However, ARIN does have the mandate regarding proper SWIP for 
>> delegated IP Addresses, and enforcement in that area might be the first step.
>Suggest a useful penalty (within ARIN's organizational scope) for the 
>discovery of forged SWIP information. Something a >"bulletproof hoster" 
>wouldn't roll his eyes at but that isn't devastating to a business hit with a 
>false positive.
>

I agree that ARIN should not be involved in enforcement, but one thing that 
ARIN (and the other RIR's) could do is make it easier for mail server operators 
to get *ALL* the blocks assigned to a given organization in one query. I find 
that "whois n w.x.y.z" often returns the same names as either the swip'd 
client, or the DC host. It would be much easier from my perspective use those 
names as input then block all of their space than it is to play wack-a-mole as 
each client cluster shows up. 

>Also, suggest a process ARIN might use to distinguish between those who were 
>tricked (i.e. victims) versus those who >were  complicit. It is, after all, 
>trivial to anonymously buy a pre-paid debit card and forge a fax-quality image 
>of a driver's >license.
>-Bill


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