On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Andrew Dul wrote:

Here is a suggested addition to the draft policy's first paragraph in an attempt to alleviate some of the issues raised by the staff & legal assessment by increasing the nexus requirement slightly.


Out of region use of IPv4, IPv6, or ASNs are valid justification for additional number resources if the applicant is currently using at least the equivalent of a /22 of IPv4, /44 of IPv6, or 1 ASN within the ARIN service region, respectively. At least 10% of the additional resource request or 20% of all an organizations resources must be used in the ARIN service region.

I wouldn't object to this (now that it's been tempered with the "or 20%..."), but I don't think this will be effective in preventing the sort of fraudulent or "RIR shopping" requests people seem to be worried about.

As was just mentioned at the meeting, a major concern some seem to have with 2014-1 is a question of security:

"How do we allow ARIN members to use ARIN space globally without restrictions, but prevent out of region organizations from becoming ARIN members for the purpose of acquiring ARIN resources to be used entirely
outside the ARIN region?"

I don't have a good answer for that question, but I do wonder if the question is relevant? As has previously been mentioned on PPML, an organization can setup a "dummy" network using as little as some in-region cloud computing resources to "fake out" the nexus requirement. What's to stop them from doing the same thing to hide that their request is for resources to be used out of region? If an org is going to commit fraud to obtain ARIN resources, I don't see that 2014-1 opening additional fraudulent routes to obtaining ARIN resources is the huge problem some seem to think it is.

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