I do understand their concerns and obviously I disagree with needs testing.
What is really needed is size testing to match the size of the block
allocations to the size of the organization, as I’ve mentioned many times
before. Needs testing, with IPv4 run out pretty much here, is just rearranging
deck chairs on the Titanic.
With IPv4 run out the pace of blocks being sold outside of ARIN is likely to
increase and with current policy the Registry database keeps becoming more and
more inaccurate.
It is a fact that Legacy blocks are being sold outside ARIN. Assuming I
agreed that needs testing is important that just leaves this community two
options:
The Bad option is: When a Legacy block sells Outside ARIN
without needs testing but with reasonable documentation and verification
provided to ARIN (which could be defined in an ARIN policy) the Registry info
could be updated.
The Worse option is: When a Legacy block sells Outside ARIN
without needs testing but with reasonable documentation and verification the
Registry info won’t be updated.
So the real life choice (short of a law being passed or a Judge making a
decision) for folks that want Needs testing, is to take the Bad option or take
the Worse option.
If the Registry does matter to this community then the Bad option is slightly
better than the Worse option. If Registry accuracy doesn’t matter then we
should just change ARIN’s mission to not care about keeping the Registry
accurate and all live with that, as Legacy blocks will keep getting sold
outside of ARIN.
So John, is keeping the Registry as accurate as it can be important or not?
Steven L Ryerse
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From: John Curran [mailto:jcur...@arin.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 4:13 PM
To: Steven Ryerse
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net List
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2015-2
On Jun 4, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Steven Ryerse
<srye...@eclipse-networks.com<mailto:srye...@eclipse-networks.com>> wrote:
...
I’ve seen quite a lot of folks in this community state in this forum that
keeping the Registry Database current is important to them and I share that
position.
Steve -
If that’s the case, then please engage with the portion of the community
that seeks
need-testing for transfers, work to understand their concerns, and come up
with a
policy proposal that addresses them. That is likely to be far more
effectively that
asserting a registry accuracy concern, since attempted transfers that don’t
meet
policy can’t be put in the registry without making the registry an
inaccurate record
of the party with rights to the address block entry.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
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