+1 to Owens thoughts on this. I know we will continue to do this even after the 
policy is cleaned. 

Kat Hunter
Comcast LIR

-----Original Message-----
From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net> On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:45 AM
To: Azinger, Marla <marla.azin...@ftr.com>
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-3: Remove 
Reallocation Requirements for Residential Market Assignments

I will point out that removing the requirement does not prevent anyone from 
continuing to provide the information. It merely makes it optional instead of 
mandatory.

In many cases, the reporting in question is an artifact of policy that was 
specially crafted to aid CMTS-based providers in being able to obtain 
sufficient IP space to actually provision networks while attempting to avoid 
widespread and massive abuse through a gaping policy loophole. Given the 
absence of an IPv4 free pool, that policy is no longer particularly applicable 
and I believe some of it has already been eliminated. As such, this is, IMHO, 
just some additional cleanup of the NRPM to further adapt to a post-IPv4 world.

Owen


> On Jul 25, 2018, at 15:27 , Azinger, Marla <marla.azin...@ftr.com> wrote:
> 
> If I read this correct, you would be removing the requirement of public 
> records that display not just static re-allocations for a general geographic 
> area, but it would also remove Dynamic pool re-allocations.
> 
> If I saw what requirement is being removed correctly, in either respect 
> should anyone stop doing those type of Re-allocations, they will receive an 
> increase of abuse calls from law enforcement given one layer of useful data 
> is being halted.  It also might increase geographic route issues because I 
> have come across some companies that sell geo filter software based off ARIN 
> records.
> 
> Food for thought
> Marla
> 
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> Subject: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-3: Remove 
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> On 19 July 2018, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced the following Draft 
> Policy to Recommended Draft Policy status:
> 
> ARIN-2018-3: Remove Reallocation Requirements for Residential Market 
> Assignments
> 
> The text of the Recommended Draft Policy is below, and may also be found at:
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> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2018_3.html
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> 
> 
> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-3: Remove Reallocation Requirements 
> for Residential Market Assignments
> 
> Advisory Council Statement of Conformance with Principles of Internet Number 
> Resource Policy:
> 
> This recommended draft policy is technically sound, creating a fair and 
> impartial number policy. The draft policy removes the Residential Market Area 
> record keeping and publication requirement placed upon one segment of the ISP 
> population for ARIN IPv4 allocations. Since this requirement does not apply 
> to IPv4 transfers it is a legacy element of policy sustaining administrative 
> overhead for a subset of the community.  No concerns have been raised by the 
> community  and there has been demonstrable support since its initial proposal.
> 
> Problem Statement:
> 
> Current number policy requires some organizations to create reallocations or 
> reassignments for residential subscribers.  This requirement complicates 
> record keeping for ISPs.  There is limited value today for requiring these 
> records be put into the ARIN database.
> 
> ARIN number policy for a long time has required ISPs to add a reallocation or 
> reassignment record for each of their subscriber address blocks.  This policy 
> dates from the original cable allocations as a method to publicly show that a 
> portion of a larger block has been put into use.
> 
> Since ARIN no longer has a free pool of IPv4 addresses and requirements for 
> transfer are demonstrated without these records, this requirement is no 
> longer needed.
> 
> Furthermore, this requirement complicates reallocation & reassignment entry 
> into the ARIN database.3  Removing this requirement could reduce the 
> complexity required for accurately maintaining reallocation and/or 
> reassignment records.
> 
> Policy statement:
> 
> Remove Section 4.2.3.7.3.1 (Residential Market Area) from the NRPM
> 
> Comments:
> 
> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate 
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