Thanks for clarifying that, Chris. I support this draft policy proposal: 
forcing applicants to wait to get into line for free space will at least slow 
down any attempts to make money off the free pool via the waiting list. 

Scott

> On Mar 3, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Chris Woodfield <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tom - responses inline.
> 
> One additional point - the current policy places a limit on how often an 
> organization can receive resources from the waiting list. This draft changes 
> the hold-down timer so that it now applies to *applications* for new 
> allocations under the waiting list policy, not the receipt of resources from 
> it.
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 7:18 AM, Tom Fantacone <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> The "clarification" part of your proposal seems to be a no brainer (the 
>> waiting period is meant to apply to allocations only under section 4).  I 
>> assume ARIN staff is already interpreting it this way since that was the 
>> intent of the section.  So I wouldn't sever it unless the full policy 
>> doesn't gain support in which case we could revisit just inserting the 
>> clarification part.
>> 
> 
> That assumption is my understanding as well.
> 
>> Regarding this:
>> "- Disallows organizations that have transferred space to other parties 
>> within the past 12 months from applying for additional IPv4 space under NRPM 
>> Section 4. "
>> 
>> I want to make sure I understand it correctly.  If you transfer out space 
>> via 8.2/8.3/8.4, does this restriction mean you just can't receive space via 
>> the waiting list for 12 months, or via any mechanism (waiting list/transfer) 
>> for 12 months?  I think it means from the waiting list only, but want to be 
>> sure.
>> 
> 
> That is correct - note the phrase “...under this section...” in the proposal 
> text. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Chris
> 
> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---- On Sat, 02 Mar 2019 13:48:01 -0500 Chris Woodfield 
>> <[email protected]> wrote ----
>> 
>> Speaking as the policy author, I’ll make two points:
>> 
>> 1. I’m aware that given the other discussions around waiting list policy 
>> that are ongoing, this proposal may well be rendered moot by future policy 
>> changes. I still believe that this is worth pursuing as there’s a current 
>> need for clarification and increased disincentives for bad behavior today.
>> 2. I’m deliberately killing two not-terribly-related birds with one stone 
>> with this proposal, based on the fact that the two issues noted from the PER 
>> can be addressed by adding language to the same NRPM text. Happy to consider 
>> severing them if the community prefers.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -Chris
>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2019, at 9:33 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think it is time to start the ball on the other policies.
>>> 
>>> +1 on this. It seems focused on those gathering resources to resell.
>>> 
>>> Albert Erdmann
>>> Network Administrator
>>> Paradise On Line Inc.
>> t [email protected] if you experience any issues.
>> 
>> 
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