Obviously this thread is going somewhat off-topic and my reply isn’t going to 
help matters - the idea that peer to peer is useless is a factor, but it’s more 
than that - it’s the fact that the vast majority of customers, service 
providers, and operators have come to view NAT and the use of private space as 
a form of security perimeter, and that allowing internal hosts/networks to be 
numbered from globally-routable space represents a security risk.

You, I, and most of the people reading PPML know that mindset is completely 
fallacious, but it’s quite pervasive and takes quite a bit of education to 
disabuse otherwise quite savvy operators of this notion.

It’s interesting that a lot of IPv6 evangelism that I’ve seen over the years 
doesn’t address this concern - IMO we should be spending quite a bit of energy 
fighting that mindset.

-C

> On Jan 15, 2021, at 11:39 PM, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote:
> 
> The biggest problem surrounding IPv4 is this idea that peer to peer is 
> useless and we should all accept the idea of provider/supplicant and second 
> class citizens.
> 

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