> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:19 , William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 9:38 AM Chris Woodfield <[email protected]> wrote: >> Fernando - I would support language similar to what you’ve proposed, as it >> explicitly requires the address allocation to be part of a connectivity >> service. >> >> The trick then would be to make sure organizations can’t do it the other way >> around; I’m reminded of a nightclub I used to frequent that held a >> restaurant license, which only allowed them to serve alcohol as part of a >> order for food. As such, customers did not order drinks, they would buy a >> packet of peanuts that happened to be served with an alcoholic beverage >> alongside. >> >> Let’s make sure that with this language, we don’t suddenly see an influx of >> “VPN Providers” who happen to be routing /24 or larger blocks to each of >> their customer’s tunnels. > > > Hi Chris, > > As I noted in a recent thread, there's no language you can write which > will prevent that from happening. The service provider can just bump > it one step further back. "Oh, we can't provide a VPN? Okay, we don't. > We do BGP with the customer's virtual server and what they do with it > is not for us to say. Oh, we can't provide the virtual server or have > to police the customer's use?Tell that to Amazon before you hassle us. > Good luck." > > However, just because we can't prevent something doesn't mean we have > to legitimize it and make it easy for the folks who want to be > high-price mini-ARINs. And if the status quo has become unstable due > to the price of IP addresses, I'd rather see the policy moved away > from leasing addresses for use with BGP rather than moved toward it.
So Verizon charges $99.95/address/month in some cases for a static address. Comcast charges $15/address/month. The non-facilities leasing provider with which I am most familiar charges $5/address/month. Who is the high priced min-ARIN again? Owen _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
