On 11/03/2022 14:56, Tom Fantacone wrote:
Bill,

We can quibble about semantics, but let's go with your verbiage:

If I run a network and qualify for an /18 right now, can I go to ARIN and lease one?   I must either /pay someone to release their addresses to ARIN to lease to me/ or lease one from a (non-ARIN) 3rd party.
And that should always be the expected, release them to ARIN which should be the only actor taking care of it. I really fail to understand how can one consider legit that a 3rd party could be doing this job otherwise.

If everybody sticks that what is expected, things work better, is much better to trust ARIN to do this plus in the end doing in such way doesn't least space for speculation, price rises and community have the assurance that the one who is intermediating it is someone really neutral and with no other interests to the business other than make sure the policies are being followed.

Fernando


And the amount I must pay (commonly referred to as the Purchase Price in most IPv4 transfer contracts, whether I'm technically "buying" it or not), is significantly more than either typical lease rates or ARIN's annual fees.  My point is that 3rd party lessors do provide a service that ARIN does not.

Regards,

Tom Fantacone



---- On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 12:42:52 -0500 *William Herrin <b...@herrin.us>* wrote ----

    On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 9:40 AM Tom Fantacone <t...@iptrading.com>
    wrote:
    > If I run a network and qualify for an /18 right now, can I got
    to ARIN and lease one? I must either buy one on the transfer market

    Tom,

    I think you misunderstand the transfer market. You don't buy
    addresses
    on the transfer market. You lease addresses from ARIN and then pay
    someone on the transfer market to release their addresses to ARIN for
    lease to you.

    Regards,
    Bill Herrin


-- William Herrin
    b...@herrin.us
    https://bill.herrin.us/




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