This is perfect, thank you Owen!

From: Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 9:43 PM
To: WOOD Alison * DAS <alison.w...@das.oregon.gov>
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report 4.10 Space




On Dec 8, 2023, at 09:43, WOOD Alison * DAS <alison.w...@das.oregon.gov> wrote:

Happy Friday ARIN Community!

The Policy Experience Report from ARIN 52 brought about great discussion on 
4.10 space and I would appreciate your feedback.

A growing number of organizations are requesting multiple /24s from the 4.10 
reserve pool to provide services in geographically distanced data centers, 
invoking multiple discrete networks under section 4.5.
ARIN staff has been using their discretion in accordance with the policy to 
deny these additional requests for 4.10 space, due to not having ‘compelling 
criteria’.

These requests are frequently declined because they don’t meet the criteria for 
4.10 space and are not truly multiple discreet networks, but geographically 
diverse deployed servers.

Questions for the community

• Is a policy clarification necessary or is ARIN is making the correct decision 
for these type of requests?

I don’t think policy clarification I needed. If the network is otherwise MDN, 
then it should qualify as MDN for 4.10. If it is not, then it should not. 
Sounds like staff is already adhering to this, so I don’t see a problem.


• If clarification is needed, how should the definition of multiple discrete 
networks in section 4.5 be improved?

I think it would be difficult to improve this definition without creating 
unintended consequences. Given that staff seems to be getting it right so far, 
I think there is more risk n tampering than in letting it continue to work as 
intended.

• Should there be a maximum number of /24s available under 4.10?

No. When it runs out, it runs out. It’s not like people haven’t had plenty of 
warning that IPv4 is limited and will run out at some point.

Owen

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