I'm downloading the NOOBS and rasbian images to see if I can use those
to boot the PI that has been lent to me.
Looking on the underside there is a sticker: E1213RS2V13B1.0 is this a
new or an old board ?
I'm beginning to think that the whole PI project is scrap:
the boards were meant to be 25 or 35 USD respectively fro the A or B
model, but the cheapest you can get one in europe is for 50 Euro
(that's damm close to 70 USD) ... it's twice the price it was supposed
to be !!!!
you get one and you may not be able to boot it untill you get the
correct images for it
downloading stuff from the foundation's' ftp server is really slow ...
they must have a PI itself serving files
I'm not even sure I want to complete my tests because I don't think
I'm gonna buy one ... but I'm just curious to see how bad it actually is.
I'll see if I want to try booting after the estimated 4 and 7 hour
estimated download time, that I've hadto restart over again because it
got truncated and resume does not seem to work.
ATB
David
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*Da:* Tom <tom...@spoko.eu.org>
*A:* "armedslack@lists.armedslack.org" <armedslack@lists.armedslack.org>
*Cc:* Davide <louigi...@yahoo.it>
*Inviato:* Giovedì 26 Settembre 2013 19:44
*Oggetto:* Re: [ARMedslack] A quick primer for the PI
Davide, I've also had problems installing Slackware on RPi.
My board/card did not work with kernel / images they provided.
I've suggested Slackware for RPI should use Raspbian kernel - because
it is ACTIVELY supported.
Try my way
https://salwach.pl/rpi_slackware
>These images have been tested on a
> multitude of boards and have never failed to boot.
Recently I've bought 2nd RPi, just switched SD card to new
one..and ooops...black screen. Old works, new one not.
After download of "new" Raspbian and replacing bootloader I've got it
working.
RPi is NOT Arduino - it changes too fast.
And guys here do not understand that or ignore it.
Standard answer: "Works on my computer"....LOL
Tom
W lis'cie z 26 wrzes'nia 2013:
From: stan...@stanleygarvey.com <mailto:stan...@stanleygarvey.com>
To: louigi...@yahoo.it <mailto:louigi...@yahoo.it>
CC:
ssc> No nothing obscure needs to be done it should just work. I
ssc> checked today at home. These images have been tested on a
ssc> multitude of boards and have never failed to boot.
ssc> Have you created a swap and ext4 root fs? Donkt know if it will
ssc> boot without these being present.
ssc> Sent from my BlackBerry smartphone from Virgin Media
ssc> -----Original Message-----
ssc> From: Davide <louigi...@yahoo.it <mailto:louigi...@yahoo.it>>
ssc> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:23:43
ssc> To: stan...@stanleygarvey.com
<mailto:stan...@stanleygarvey.com><stan...@stanleygarvey.com
<mailto:stan...@stanleygarvey.com>>;
ssc> dowe...@netscape.net
<mailto:dowe...@netscape.net><dowe...@netscape.net
<mailto:dowe...@netscape.net>>;
ssc> armedslack@lists.armedslack.org
<mailto:armedslack@lists.armedslack.org><armedslack@lists.armedslack.org
<mailto:armedslack@lists.armedslack.org>>
ssc> Reply-To: Davide <louigi...@yahoo.it <mailto:louigi...@yahoo.it>>
ssc> Subject: Re: [ARMedslack] A quick primer for the PI
ssc> No I formatted the filesystem myself and copied files into it.
ssc> The firs lot of boot loader stuff was gotten out of
ssc>
http://stanleygarvey.com/slackwarearm_rpi/slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.zip
ssc> , unzipp created loop device with off set on the image first
ssc> partition ... mounted it and copied files over.
ssc> root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp# fdisk -l
slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.img
ssc> Disk slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.img: 2558 MB, 2558967808 bytes
ssc> 4 heads, 32 sectors/track, 39046 cylinders, total 4997984 sectors
ssc> Units = sectors of
ssc> 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
ssc> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
ssc> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
ssc> Disk identifier: 0x00007091
ssc> Device Boot Start End
Blocks Id System
ssc> slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.img1 32 97663 48816 c
W95 FAT32 (LBA)
ssc> slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.img2 97664 878847 390592
82 Linux
ssc> swap
ssc> slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.img3 878848 15751167 7436160
83 Linux
ssc> root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp# echo $((32 * 512))
ssc> 16384
ssc> root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp# losetup -o 16384
/dev/loop0
ssc> slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.img
ssc> root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp# modprobe vfat
ssc> root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp# mount /dev/loop0
/mnt/floppy/
ssc> root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp# ls /mnt/floppy/
ssc> COPYING.linux* config-raspberrypi-3.2.27* start.elf*
ssc> LICENCE.broadcom* config.txt* start_cd.elf*
ssc> System.map-raspberrypi-3.2.27*
ssc> fixup.dat* zImage-raspberrypi-3.2.27*
ssc> bootcode.bin* fixup_cd.dat*
ssc> cmdline.txt* initrd-raspberrypi.img*
ssc> root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp#
ssc> Is there something obscure that need to be done to the dor
partition ?
ssc> Regards
ssc> David
ssc> ________________________________
ssc> Da: "stan...@stanleygarvey.com
<mailto:stan...@stanleygarvey.com>" <stan...@stanleygarvey.com
<mailto:stan...@stanleygarvey.com>>
ssc> A: Davide <louigi...@yahoo.it <mailto:louigi...@yahoo.it>>;
"dowe...@netscape.net <mailto:dowe...@netscape.net>"
ssc> <dowe...@netscape.net <mailto:dowe...@netscape.net>>;
"armedslack@lists.armedslack.org <mailto:armedslack@lists.armedslack.org>"
ssc> <armedslack@lists.armedslack.org
<mailto:armedslack@lists.armedslack.org>>
ssc> Inviato: Giovedì 26 Settembre 2013 14:52
ssc> Oggetto: Re: [ARMedslack] A quick primer for the PI
ssc>
ssc> Did you dd the image onto the card?
ssc> What suze of card?
ssc> Try the installer image at stanleygarvey.com
ssc> Regards,
ssc> Stanley
ssc> Sent from my BlackBerry smartphone from Virgin Media
ssc> ________________________________
ssc> From: Davide <louigi...@yahoo.it <mailto:louigi...@yahoo.it>>
ssc> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:38:21 +0100 (BST)
ssc> To: stanley garvey<stan...@stanleygarvey.com
<mailto:stan...@stanleygarvey.com>>;
ssc> dowe...@netscape.net
<mailto:dowe...@netscape.net><dowe...@netscape.net
<mailto:dowe...@netscape.net>>;
ssc> armedslack@lists.armedslack.org
<mailto:armedslack@lists.armedslack.org><armedslack@lists.armedslack.org
<mailto:armedslack@lists.armedslack.org>>
ssc> ReplyTo: Davide <louigi...@yahoo.it <mailto:louigi...@yahoo.it>>
ssc> Subject: Re: [ARMedslack] A quick primer for the PI
ssc> I can't get it to boot at all.
ssc> If I turn the PI on I get the PER led solid on but the ACT led
does this:
ssc> first faint on, the bright on for a second or do then it goes off
and stays off.
ssc> I've tried 2 different SD cards supposing that the firs may have
ssc> had some sort of compatibility issue but the second does the same
thing.
ssc> I downloaded updated boot stuff from here:
ssc>
http://www.daves-collective.co.uk/raspi/system/raspi-boot-20120801-fw-1_dbs.tgz
ssc> ... but nothing seems to change.
ssc> Is the PI finiky on where the dos partition should begin ? or on
the formatting of it ?
ssc> mine starts at sector 2048 (1Mb from the beginning of the device)
and is fat32 formatted
ssc> I suspect that its not booting because if I take out the SD and
ssc> mount in on the PC fsck does not detect the filesystem dirty flag
ssc> that I should have if the thing booted but showed nothing on the TV.
ssc> ATB
ssc> David
ssc> ________________________________
ssc> Da: stanley garvey <stan...@stanleygarvey.com
<mailto:stan...@stanleygarvey.com>>
ssc> A: "dowe...@netscape.net <mailto:dowe...@netscape.net>"
<dowe...@netscape.net <mailto:dowe...@netscape.net>>;
ssc> "armedslack@lists.armedslack.org
<mailto:armedslack@lists.armedslack.org>"
ssc> <armedslack@lists.armedslack.org
<mailto:armedslack@lists.armedslack.org>>; Davide <louigi...@yahoo.it
<mailto:louigi...@yahoo.it>>;
ssc> Slackware ARM port <armedslack@lists.armedslack.org
<mailto:armedslack@lists.armedslack.org>>
ssc> Inviato: Giovedì 26 Settembre 2013 13:15
ssc> Oggetto: Re: [ARMedslack] A quick primer for the PI
ssc>
ssc> On Sep 26, 2013 08:25 "Davide" <louigi...@yahoo.it
<mailto:louigi...@yahoo.it>> wrote:
>>
>>>>I got a friend to lend me a PI for a week ...
>>
>>>>I had a quick look at the community links for slackware on the PI
but none really tell me what i want to know:
>>>>what does the GPU look for in the SD ? (as fas as I know it's
the GPU that loads stuff from SD into memory and then passes control
to it)
>>>>does it look for a second stage boot loader like a uboot image or
does it load kernel and initrd ? (bootcode.bin)
>>>>I'm supposing that the first partition (the dos one) is where this
stuff should be put ?
>>>>The content in there looks about right:
>>
>>>>root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp# fdisk -l
slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.img
>>
>>>>Disk slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.img: 2558 MB, 2558967808 bytes
>>>>4 heads, 32 sectors/track, 39046 cylinders, total 4997984 sectors
>>>>Units = sectors of
ssc> 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
>>>>Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
>>>>I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
>>>>Disk identifier: 0x00007091
>>
>>>> Device Boot Start
End Blocks Id System
>>>>slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.img1 32 97663 48816
c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
>>>>slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.img2 97664 878847
390592 82 Linux
ssc> swap
>>>>slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.img3 878848 15751167
7436160 83 Linux
>>>>root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp# echo $((32 * 512))
>>>>16384
>>>>root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp# losetup -o 16384
/dev/loop0 slackwarearm-14.0-8GB-20130623.img
>>>>root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp# modprobe vfat
>>>>root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp# mount /dev/loop0
/mnt/floppy/
>>>>root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp# ls /mnt/floppy/
>>>>COPYING.linux* config-raspberrypi-3.2.27* start.elf*
>>>>LICENCE.broadcom* config.txt* start_cd.elf*
>>>>System.map-raspberrypi-3.2.27*
ssc> fixup.dat* zImage-raspberrypi-3.2.27*
>>>>bootcode.bin* fixup_cd.dat*
>>>>cmdline.txt* initrd-raspberrypi.img*
>>>root@darkstar <mailto:root@darkstar>:/tmp#
>>
>>
>>>>I plan to play a little with a miniroot so I won't need an 8Gb SD :)
>>
>>>Hi David,
>>Hi Dave ;)
>>
>>>The GPU looks for
ssc> bootcode.bin, which looks for and loads loader.bin. Loader.bin
reads in
ssc> config.txt (to configure the hardware) and loads start.elf (the GPU
ssc> binary blob). Once it has configured the hardware, it then >loads
ssc> kernel.img, and feeds it the contents of cmdline.txt.
>>
>>But on the readymade image from
http://stanleygarvey.com/slackwarearm_rpi/index.php there is no
loader.bin in the dos partition !
>>Is there something wrong with this image or is loader.bin optional ?
>>
>>> Hi Davide, ther is nothing wrong with the image, I use it at home,
it could be that loader bin is a new addition to the Fat32 boot
partitionfor Debian variants. the boot layout I use has not changed
since last Christmas.
>>
>>>So you have
ssc> to have bootcode.bin, loader.bin, config.txt, start.elf,
kernel.img,
ssc> and cmdline.txt, then if you load a ramdisk image in the cmdline.txt
ssc> file you need the ramdisk image file.
>>
>>> yes
>>
>>Is the initrd loading governed by config.txt ?
>>
>>> yes
>>
>>I see in there ramfsfile=initrd-raspberrypi.img
>>Can I change that manualy with vi and load a different initrd ? or
comment it out to not load an initrd at all ?
>>
>>> Yes you can edit the file with vi and load a different initrd. It
is commented out in my config.txt as it is not required to boot a
running system. initrd-raspberrypi.img is the installer, It has been
left there so you can reinstall if you wish, it is a versatile-initrd
that has been modified with a modified version of the mk-tegra.sh.
>>
>>When is the HDMI output initiated ?
>>
>>>Before the system
ssc> comes up as the GPU boots the system.
>>
>>> if you ate looking for a mini root try the installer image, it is
1GB and is the standard slackwarearm installer so has busybox and
other stuff. you won't be able to install a full system on 1GB the 3rd
partition is a stub and should be deleted and recreated to use the
remaining space on whatever size card you have before stating 'setup'.
you may be able to get a base slackwarearm systm (a)(ap) series on a
4GB card.
>>Hope that helps,
>>Stanley.
>>
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